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Again, new to coins and sorting through an inherited collection which contains a large amount of "error" coins. This Roosevelt dime has some type of damage to the front, but almost no imprint on the back. There is a very faint image, but it was hard to pick up in the pictures. I don;t know the terminology and am trying to learn. Thanks.

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 Posted 09/07/2015  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an error. Looks like half of a magician coin. It would be considered post strike damage.
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 Posted 09/07/2015  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting theory! Agree PMD.
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Back in the 19th century, it was common for people to pay a jeweler to grind one side off of a coin and engrave the initials of their sweetheart into the coin. So called "love tokens" are collected by some, but generally considered to be damaged as far as numismatics are concerned.

Looks like your dime might very well be an abandoned attempt at a love token.
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I am trying to uploaded better photos. The back and sides are clearly that of a dime, but it is too thin and the image is faint, but very clearly a normal back of a dime. Almost as if there was not enough metal for correct stamping. I do not see a link to add additional photos?
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 Posted 09/08/2015  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD. The devices and fields have been worn down but the rim preserved. The rim is there to protect the devices and fields but someone has deliberately and carefully eroded them while leaving the rim relatively untouched.

As John1 suggested, possibly half of a Magician's coin.
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Thank you, that is interesting. I would think that the coins image was on the surface only, but it looks like it must go much deeper than that? The reverse image is still visible even where there is quite a it of metal missing.
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As others have mentioned, at one point after the reverse was ground down on a lathe. At that point, the devices on the reverse were likely sharp. Then this stayed in circulation and what you are seeing is "normal" circulation wear that makes the devices appear mushy, much like the hair and other details on the obverse.
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Could you give us the weight of the coin?
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3 grams
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The correct weight is 2.5 grams. So try another dime on you scale. It might be rounding the weight?
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I only have the postal scale at work and it is definitely rounding. I will have to weigh it on a better scale and let you know.
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If the weight is correct then I think your coin was struck through a heavy layer of grease. The added pressure of the grease caused the finning on the reverse.
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oooh, interesting theory. I'll be curious to see what the weight is then!
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The problem with that theory is where is the rim? On a grease filled example the rim would be present.
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