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Type Set Enthusiasts: Hardest Slots To Fill?

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Type set assemblers: In your experience what have been the most difficult slots to fill in your type sets?

Initially I had thought that the two Seated dollars would be the big challenge, followed by the Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cents. However as I began looking for nice collectors grade, problem free examples to fill those slots I began to see how elusive the Large Cents are in VF and above. They can be a much more substantial budget obstacle than the Seated dollars if you are holding out for nice coins with eye appeal.

I just purchased a nice Draped Bust Cent (sorry having trouble getting good pictures ) and now and looking at examples of Classic Head Cents which seem to be just as elusive and expensive.

Your thoughts?

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I'm not working on a Type set/7070 (7070 is out of my price range alone that I'd be willing to spend on a Dansco, lol), but I would assume Seated dollar.

Coronet Half Cents would probably be hard, too. Lots of them had lower mintages. I don't think 7070's or Type books have a $3 gold slot, but if they do that'd probably be up there. Also Capped Bust quarters, somewhat.
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Yes I have noticed that too although just looking at average selling prices for the coins I still believe it was going to be around $300 (if I am patient and lucky) for a Seated dollar in my grade I want and around $200-250 or so for the draped bust large cent. So definitely the large cents are right up there
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I suppose it depends on what you include in the type set. Some of the early gold and silver types, such as the 1796-1797 half dollar, the small eagle gold $5.00 and $10.00, or the 1796 no stars $2.50 would be expensive slots to fill.

Of course, many of the albums don't have slots for these.
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I am finding that the classic head large cent is a tough one to fill in a decent grade.
On the gold page it is the three dollar piece.
The intercept shield has a hole for this.
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CoinHuntingDrew: Coronet Half Cents are super easy. Low mintage doesn't necessarily translate into rare. Half Cents were hardly ever spent so many were simply pulled from circ a long time ago. A lot are available for reasonable prices in high grades.

The Seated dollars in high grades (Mint State) are probably the hardest to locate, whereas mint state large cents, particularly the draped bust and classic head types will be the most expensive in mint state. That sounds odd, but of the holes remaining in my 7070 they are the two older large cents and a with motto Seated dollar. Capped Bust quarters are also going to be an expensive acquisition, mine is AG details at the moment.
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I still don't have a decent "Classic Head" (1808-14) Large Cent. I've seen them occasionally for sale at coin shows, but it's hard to justify spending $1000 or more for one in VF20 condition. And if I ever did decide to bite the bullet and spend that sort of money, I doubt I would ever be willing to crack it out of its plastic case (I surely wouldn't pay that much for a raw coin) and stick it in my 7070 album.

If we're going beyond what is in the 7070 album, I find that early (pre-1830) Capped Bust quarters to also be prohibitively expensive.
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I didn't do a gold page in my 7070, so I can't speak to that.

If you want to open the pocketbook, you can pretty much get anything you want, but in terms of finding nice examples at reasonable prices, coins I found to be the hardest were:

Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cents - very expensive once you get to VF and up - I ended up getting a great deal on two on the G/VG line with decent eye appeal and just went with them instead of trying to find something higher grade

Twenty Cent Piece - took a lot of searching to find one with a full Liberty and good eye appeal

Capped Bust Half - Reeded Edge - lots of weak strikes on these it seems, so took awhile to find one

Seated dollars - very expensive overall - my No Motto has been lightly cleaned in a past life but has a decent look to it and I got a good deal on the With Motto here on CCF.
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For some reason the Flying Eagle cent is the hardest coin for me. I guess I'm really picky with them.
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For some reason the Flying Eagle cent is the hardest coin for me. I guess I'm really picky with them.


I can understand that. I've seen many that seem to be OK when viewed in hand, but as soon as I look at them close up I always find more wear and/or damage than I care for. In fact, the Flying Eagle cent is probably the coin I have swapped out most often in my 7070 album. I paid something like $200-300 for my current one, and I'm still not completely satisfied with it. Is there something about the design that makes them hard to find in good condition, I wonder?
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Initially I had thought that the two Seated dollars would be the big challenge, followed by the Draped Bust and Classic Head Large Cents.
That is where I am stuck.

Well, throw in a Trade dollar as well. I refuse to buy one with chop marks. They just do not look right in the type set.

Maybe one on its on in a miscellany album though, as I do not really hate them.

Hmm, a 7070 full of counter-stamped coins.
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great thread. I am just beginning a type set and it's nice to know what's in store. I was thinking "fine" to start (I am a hole filler) and then upgrade as funds and availability allows. Or should I start with VF/EF/XF and just have more holes longer? Or instead of trying for a common grade, do you just fill holes with "whatever" grade and then upgrade as time goes by?
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In my experience, it depends on the grades.

Lower grade draped bust and classic large cents are cheaper
than Seated dollars.

In mid grade, good eye appeal coins, the top five are
Draped bust cent
Classic head cent
Twenty Cent
Seated dollar no motto
Seated dollar motto

Which one will be more expensive, sometimes can depend on
how good of a deal you can get.
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I was thinking "fine" to start (I am a hole filler) and then upgrade as funds and availability allows. Or should I start with VF/EF/XF and just have more holes longer? Or instead of trying for a common grade, do you just fill holes with "whatever" grade and then upgrade as time goes by?
I like circulated coins, so most of mine are in middle grades. I am sentimental, so upgrading for me is not an option since I get attached to what I put in the hole.

So, if you think upgrading will be fun, then fill as many holes as fast as you can and upgrade later. If not, then use patience and fill the hole with the best you want.

There really is no wrong here, do what makes you happy. If you think upgrading will be fun, remember one cost for that fun is time and money spent on the fillers. If you really enjoy the hunt, then fill each hole only once with the best you can find.
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hmm, decisions, decisions. I am loathe to buy higher end coins unslabbed. I am loathe to release higher end slabbed coins from their slab. I am loathe to fill a type coin album with AG coins. I guess I am just loathe {grin}.

How about a separate "fine" album, "very fine" album, and "extra fine album"? I'm afraid that will result in too much month left at the end of the monthly numismatic budget, eh?
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You'll have to be more specific about how you are defining your type set.
The main ones that I'm familiar with are:
-- Dansco 7070
-- NGC Registry Type Set
-- PCGS Registry Type Set
You also have to define your grade range(s).
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