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I just started collecting about a month ago after I went through my hoard of penny's and actually found a few bucks. I remembered I had almost 20, uncirculated State Quarters in cases so I pulled them out. My mom had been getting them through one of them tv commercials like Franklin Mint or something. These are 100% legal tender btw. So my question is this. Out of the 18 I have, over half are different colors. There are some that are silver on one side and like a brownish gold on the other. The rest of them brownish gold on both sides. Now, my question is,,,, is this because of missing Cud?

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to CCF.Tell your mom to stop wasting her money on these,they are almost always way overpriced. Yes they are legal tender. Color wise,could be plated or just toned.I don't know what you mean by missing Cud.
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 Posted 09/11/2015  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on taking the first steps into coin collecting! You've come to a great place for learning.

As for the coin question you pose, I believe toning is more the reason why some of your State Quarters appear brownish gold. Toning is where the metal of the coin reacts to air, making the surface metal change from its original color. The plastic capsules the coins are stored in may not be airtight, allowing for toning to occur over time.

Also, some private companies can plated coins with other metals, like plating State Quarters with gold. Your coins do not look like that, but it is something you may see from time to time.

Now, as for the word Cud, "Strike It Rich" by Ken Potter and Dr. Brian Allen defines a Cud as a "broken die involving a piece that breaks away from the shank and extends inward into the design. The result is often what appears to be a blob of raised metal in the area where the broken chunk of the die fell out." I'll let someone else post a picture of a Cud since I do not have one on me at the time.

I believe the word you are looking for is clad or clading, which is the metal layers that create the planchet that most U.S. coins are struck on. In this case, I believe your State Quarters are experiencing toning of the metal, not an error.
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well john I would be darn glad to tell her that buddy. but see I got these from her house when I went back home on may the 2nd, to bury her. so now worries she wont buy anymore.
i have, of course, been reading and doing my best to learn things and terms and I was looking up memorial pennies and was reading on it somewhere and they had pics that looked just like mine and they were terming it as missing Cud. after reading a little about the dies etc etc and did not think Cud was the correct term, but it went on to say that it was missing the "outter layer". ok so hey thank you both very much and how quick a reply lol awesome. ok now lol how or where can I sale my real error quarters? lol one in the pic was Kansas with In God We Rust lol
thanks again to you both
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I'm sorry for your loss, duzzitmatterhuh.
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I'd like to see the in God We Rust!
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duzzitmatterhuh, to CCF
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well john I would be darn glad to tell her that buddy. but see I got these from her house when I went back home on may the 2nd, to bury her. so now worries she wont buy anymore.

Sorry for your loss.
The posted replies were based on advice not knowing they were inherited coins.
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Here ya go Osprey. Had to make it real tiny to upload. It looks real good but if you tilt a certain way you can see a very faint scratch of a T

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My condolences to you for your loss duzzitmatterhuh. As to where to sell them,try a local coin shop but I don't think you will get much for them. Wouldn't you rather keep them for sentle mentle value?
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Thanks for the pic, Duzz
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Sorry for your loss. I would use ebay for the "IGWR" error. I have sold them between 20-30, but that was a year ago since I put any of those up.
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Grease gets on to the die and fills some/all deeper devices. This prevents the striking up of the devices when this happens. It can be minor or major or in between.
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Not much interest in these till a large portion (90%+) is affected. I set them aside for images in tubes, but have never sold one as I view them as an event that happened at a time and then the die was cleaned later.

A Cud is when part of the die is broken away on the out are of the die. It often starts off as a crack.
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Later this can split off a piece of the die causing a Cud.
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The coin will show an un struck area on the one side and a weak side on the opposite side of the coin. (because there is not resistance of the die because of the area missing)
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Hope this helps.

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I took absolutely no offense and thankful for what he and everyone else said. But honestly we all told her not to and she did as I've only got 18. She made another one herself which was all circulated.
Thanks again yall I appreciate it. Wish could chat as I've several questions about my coins and errors.
Thanks again
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Post as many question as you like,we will help if we can.
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