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2015 JFK Silver Medal, Doubled Die, Machine Doubling, Or

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 Posted 09/22/2015  10:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Die deterioration? I'm really not sure, it just came in the jfk chronicle set this way


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 Posted 09/22/2015  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe MD, but hard to tell from pics.
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The 2nd stamp looks rounded like a DD. This coin is a proof though isn't it. Seems many proofs look like this and have been noted as MD. However, this coin is so new yet there is nothing to compare it to.
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 Posted 09/22/2015  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no it's a regular strike
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 Posted 09/23/2015  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone else?
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 Posted 09/23/2015  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have a normal on to take an image of and size to the same pixels as your image. Not familiar with how this coins devices should look like.
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 Posted 09/23/2015  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agrippa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure this is absolutely no help, but the "K" looks like DD and the "E" definitely looks like MD to me.
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Machine damage, IMHO.
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Tried to throw together a quick comparison if it helps any.

Regular coin device.
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Possible DD? (OP's coin)
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Devices seem to look smaller so I would say md. You should be looking for seperation of serrifs. If it were a DD and it had that much seperation in the middle of the device the one of the ends would definitely be seperated
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Die Deterioration would be on the opposite side of the devices. (in the direction of the rim the outsides of the devices)
Hub doubling would enlarge the overall size. (Looks like the same overall size of devices) Looks like Machine damage reduced the size. So it is MD.
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 Posted 09/24/2015  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SjlundCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the same coin as the OP and I thought I saw some splitting in the letters...Is that caused by MD also?

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I guess you would need to put three devices in an image in a row and make a Side by Side and see if they are larger or normal overall shaped. (Posting just one device in an image doesn't give us the correct definition of size)

When we enlarge one device in a large image, nothing can still look liked something. (I usually put 3 or more devices per image to keep it more in perspective)

Some times I can see something in my scope (3.5X-35X infinite zoom) that can't be found in a photo. Then I know it is too minor to be a collectable.

But if it were hub doubling, several devices should be affected nearby.
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If daviscfad could take a pic of a normal one and his doubled one in the same setting & at the same time with the same setup, then overlaying the pics would tell if the devices have been made smaller or not.

Sometimes even a slightly more angled picture can make devices look off in size/thickness.

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I took a real close look at mine today with the 10x loupe and I see no doubling.
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 Posted 09/26/2015  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am leaning more towards Machine Doubling.. To me the new style of hub doubling strangely resembles MD so for me its tuff to tell
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