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I grew up collecting US coins from circulation, and as a teenager my grandmother gave me jar of world coins that she found at a yard sale one year from Christmas. Mostly Europe and South Amemerica, but some Asian countries as well. (1920's - 1980's) I have been sorting through them on and off for the past few months, putting them in flips, labeling them and am now in the phase of storing them and was wondering how I should order them.

With US coins I go by coin type and then year but with multiple countries, some having only a few, some having a few dozen I was unsure if I should go by denomination, or year. And also how should I arrange the Nations.

Spain for instance is Espana in their language. Should I honor that, or should I just be the average American and put them alphabetically where we put them?

How do you guys sort your World Coins? Is there a standard? What's your preference?
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 Posted 09/28/2015  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dohcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
country's alphabetical then denomiations small to big and then I go by year, oldies first :D

and I use my native language to write down countries
most catloges are in english then you have to look at how they pronounce it and then look it up.
but thats my MO
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09/28/2015 3:27 pm
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I don't know why you would be "the average American" by putting Spanish coins under Spain. I know Spanish collectors place U.S. coins under Estados Unidos in their collections. I don't feel like it is a matter of honor at all, we just speak different languages and I think it is rather naïve to expect others to use a language they don't know.

If you take your comments to their logical ends then you would be categorizing Japan under Nippon, but why would you write Nippon in English when you should honor the Japanese by writing it #26085;#26412;?

As far categorizations, I order by country name in English, then currency (as a lot of countries have revalued or introduced new currencies), then by denomination, smallest unit to largest unit by date, earliest coins to later coins. If there are a lot of coins that a similar from a year (say like the State Quarters) then I go by KM number.

Some what arbitrary I know, but at least I can find a Spanish coin quickly to see if it is in my collection.
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09/28/2015 3:30 pm
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 Posted 09/28/2015  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sort the countries alphabetically using the English name, then sort individual countries by denomination (smallest to largest), then date.
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All makes sense. Thanks everybody. It will be a long process. I will let you know if I have any more questions.
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 Posted 09/28/2015  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, welcome to the "dark side" of coin collecting (e.g. foreign coins).
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This has always been a vexed question for me.
I collect all World coins ancient to modern, all cultures.

For ancient coins, I separate into Greek, Roman, Indian and Chinese, then arrange by date. Same with medieval hammered coins. The 100 or so Chinese cash coins that I have are arranged by dynasty and date from ancient times to until the end of the series, ending about AD1900.

For milled coins, mostly by country then by date, but occasionally only a single country or region may be represented. The single coins for this period are grouped by World regions, because ethnicity or culture within a World region can often be related.

For modern machine struck coins from about 1800 onwards I arrange by country then date.
For large country groupings of the 20th cntury I arrange by denominations, then date. Much the same way as Krause does.


That is my approach and I am still not completely happy with it, but this arrangement is about the best I can think of, and most compliant to the common catalogues.

One major problem for me is that out of my collection of about 1,500 coins, about 100 of them are valuable enough to put in a safe. That can tear the heart out of your collection, and make the logical display of the rest of them more difficult.
The other 1,400 coins constitute a working collection and suffer somewhat from the non appearance of the more valuable ones.
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09/28/2015 11:45 pm
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I luckily don't have many Ancients to sort. I think right now I am at 4 Ancients and 3 Colonials. I am just going to keep those off to the side for now.

Now the baseball cards... That's another story...
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If you put countries by order of their name in their own language you get problems. Russia begins with a letter that looks like a P, but is in fact an R sound. So is it P or R for you?

Greece begins with a letter that doesn't look like a western letter.

China is Zhongguo. Do you put it as C or Z? Or go with the Character for Zhong? You've already put it into pinyin.
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For most collectors of World coins after about 1800 AD, arranging your collection the same way as Krause does should be OK.
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My coins (US and foreign) are sorted by date first, then ISO country code, then Krause issuing state, etc. This is done by taking photos, and giving them a file name such as 1765_DE_Saxony_Albertine_1pfennig_DPP_2015_09_12....., and copying links to the photo into one Windows folder. (Sometimes the ISO reporting code is only a guess, since boundaries change over the centuries, and countries disappear, merge, split up, etc.)
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Except for Canadian, US, and GB, I sort 'em according to Krause.
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