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Hong Kong
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On both the observe and reserve sides, there is a same word/phrase (circled blue), can anyone tell the meaning of these words and what the language it is? Thank you for your help!   |
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United States
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Australia
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I think it the demonination written from right to left, saying 'one ringit' in Jawi script a variant of Arabic.
Other demoninations in that banknote series have 'ringit' as commmon (LHS) and the name of the number varies (RHS).
Edited by agandau
10/04/2015 07:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Hong Kong
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Thank you Mayflower and agandau to share your information.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No problem. I love looking at currency. So much imagery and color.
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Pillar of the Community
Hong Kong
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There is a copy of this note on ebay here: http://www.ebay.com.hk/itm/REPRINT-...em51d92a6c59The copy looks very nice and I can't find anything wrong with this copy when compared with my note. Can anyone know how to make out a copy (fake) from a genuine note of this type? Does the seller violate the rules of ebay? He is selling a fake note actually. |
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United States
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You are not going to be able to make determine whether a note is a copy from a scan. According to the listing it is on paper that differs from an original. Since ebay has a specific category for listing reproduction banknotes it is apparently within ebay's rules. |
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Canada
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I have a couple of reproduction French India notes from ebay honestly they very poor reproductions. They look like someone printed a picture off the internet on a color printer. Now the copies of Chinese notes produced to look like real notes are more professional. |
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Hong Kong
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I don't understand what is the purpose of producing these "printed" notes. I think it is money and not for commemorative purpose. Who produce it?
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Hi These writing circled in blue are Arabic and it is read from right to left. In this case all 4 of the text says "Satu Ringgit" or "One Ringgit" in English. Ringgit is the name of the local denomination. Hope this helps. FYI, I'm from Malaysia and I happen to be a member of ANA, IBNS and RCNA. |
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Hong Kong
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Thank you for your input, alphaNumis. I wonder why Malaya or Malaysia don't have their own language but use Arabic? Can you explain more? How about the language used on today's banknotes?
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Malaysia
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In Malaysia, our national language is Bahasa Malaysia. For the pre-independence (1957) it was referred to as Bahasa Melayu.
The language itself is not very different from Bahasa Indonesia. If you know the Malay language, you shouldn't have a lot of trouble figuring out Bahasa Indonesia.
We have our own language but made use of the Arabic alphabets to write in Bahasa Melayu. It's called Jawi, look it up in Wikipedia you will find :
Jawi is an Arabic alphabet for writing the Malay language, Acehnese, Banjarese, Minangkabau, Taus and several other languages in Southeast Asia.
Sometime after independence in 1957, the use of English alphabets for Malay language gained popularity in Malaya.
The banknote posted here was printed by the British in 1953 - either TDLR or Waterlow & Sons.
So today, all our banknotes do not have Jawi on them anymore.
As for myself, I'm ethnic Chinese, I'm the 3rd generation, a Malaysian citizen by birth.
I don't read Jawi but I do speak and write Malay, which is a required subject in local schools. I also speak/write English (obviously!), Mandarin, Cantonese, Hainanese (both are Chinese dialects).
Most of us here are bi-lingual and being tri-lingual is quite normal.
Hope this answers your question.
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10/17/2015 01:10 am
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Hong Kong
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Sincerely thank you orion68. My historical knowledge about Malaysia or South East Asia started from two years' ago, there is a famous documentary DVD made by Mingpo (a Malaysian based News Group), it is called "#19979;#21335;#27915;" (translated in English : Going Down the South Sea). I am also a native Chinese in Hong Kong. From the documentary films, I know the reason why and when the Chinese from Mainland went out to the South Seas. That's a fascinating and epic history of Chinese in another part of the World. Now I use bank notes and coins to learn about the history of Straits Settlements and Malaya. I will post another note here later.
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Malaysia
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My ancestors were educators and teachers. My grandfather emigrated to Malaya at the turn of the previous century and he was a headmaster in a few of the local Chinese schools. A vast majority of the mainland Chinese were brought over here by the British to work as tin miners. Many later became businessmen - especially the Hokkiens. One Yap Ah Loy later founded the small town called Kuala Lumpur and he became Kapitan. Most have settled here permanently and as a result about 25% of the Malaysian population is ethnic Chinese.
There were Indians from India brought in by the British for the rubber industry. So in Malaysia today we have 3 main ethnic groups Malays, Chinese and Indians. When Sabah and Sarawak joined the Federation in 1963, the population include the natives there - Dayak, Kazadan and Dusun people. So as a nation we are ethnically very diverse.
Besides collecting banknotes and coins, I collect old books and history books as well, all related to Straits Settlement and the British administration, World War II which makes this hobby very interesting. Lots of history here and I collect Japanese Invasion Money too.
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10/17/2015 05:15 am
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Hong Kong
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  QEII  I love these two notes very much for their old design. At the back of the notes, there are a number of coat of arm of the states that were controlled different governments. The CoA on the back sides of the notes told some historical facts, that's are what I want to know. First, I hope those interested in these notes to have a look with my interpretation of the Main Arm (written in red) on the KGVI note? Agreed or tell me what I am wrong. KGVI's note has 14 CoA. Both Sarawak and North Borneo are not present here as they joined the Malaya Federation in 1963. QEII's note does not have the CoA of Dinding/Manjung on it, I think this city had been included in the Malaya Federation so it was not shown individually. Both notes do not show the CoA of Sabah because Sabah is part of the British North Borneo. The CoA of North Borneo was not found in KGVI's note as it was controlled by a franchised British company rather than a Crown Colony. Is that right? Dinding or Manjung is a city not as famous as Penang or Malacca, can you tell something about this city for us, orion68? Henry P.S. I am sorry that my English is not as good as you are orion68. Though HK and Malaya were both British colonies, I have to admit the standard of English is poorer for ourself. We are too close to mainland China so we use Chinese much more frequent than English. Do you read Chinese orion68? I am glad to meet an expert in Asian's history here. I have also heard about the story of Yap Ah Loy from other source. |
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Malaysia
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I am running some checks on the Straits Settlements Coat of Arms. These are some views that state the fruit and tree does not represent Dinding/Manjung.
The note was printed in 1941. Dinding/Manjung was returned to Sultan of Perak on 16 Feb 1935, almost 6 years prior.
I will get back to you with the findings here.
FYI In 1941, North Borneo and Sarawak was not part of Malaya. Those 2 states and Singapore did not come in until 1963, that made Malaysia. The Malayan peninsular (including Malacca and Penang, excluding Singapore) gained independence on 31 August 1957.
Malaysia today is a constitutional monarchy consisting of 14 states. All subjects are under the Federal government, only 2 - land and religious matters come under the State government.
Yes, I do read Chinese, which I studied until early Secondary school (it was Traditional Chinese in those days, not Simplified) but it really needs some brushing up on. I speak Mandarin at home, Cantonese & Malay with my friends and English at work. Pretty mixed up eh?
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10/18/2015 11:56 pm
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