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1894-P Morgan Dollar -- Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 10/06/2015  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you divulge the seller so that we can see his other listings ?
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 Posted 10/06/2015  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rum_n_cola to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Below is a link to his current listings. Even though they are not key-date they appear to be fakes. I am not sure why someone would fake non-key dates as there is little value, though they all look the same, the wear, etc. Decide for yourself and you can look through his completed listings as well. Everyone keeps leaving positive feedback? The sellers user name on ebay is ahre_hunt

http://www.ebay.com/sch/ahre_hunt/m....m2748.l2654
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 Posted 10/06/2015  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the photos of the 89CC that the same seller sold for $250 a week ago. Is this coin fake?

1894-P-Morgan-Dollar----Real-Or-Fake?

1894-P-Morgan-Dollar----Real-Or-Fake?
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 Posted 10/06/2015  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything he is selling and has sold is fake.
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 Posted 10/06/2015  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rum_n_cola to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is what I was thinking, given all the coins appear to be from the same counterfeit batch. The coins are perfect weight. These must be some modern Chinese fakes and they are getting better from the old fakes I have seen. He probably paid $50 for 20 of these coins and then sells them for 1000% mark-up. Thing is the buyers do not even know they have been had. They will if they ever go to sell the coins. This seller has made well over $1,000 already and keeps on listing them.
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 Posted 10/07/2015  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am not sure why someone would fake non-key dates as there is little value,


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He probably paid $50 for 20 of these coins and then sells them for 1000% mark-up.

You answered your own question. He gets a 1000% mark up and since the coins aren't keys they aren't examined closely and stick with the new buyers. He keeps the money. He can do this for a long time before he is found out. With keys or semi-keys he makes more per sale but is found out almost immediately and can only sell a few. It is the classic common battle between two business models. Make a killing on every unit but only sell a few, or make a good profit per item and sell thousands.
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 Posted 10/08/2015  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MarkVIIIMarc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay should have the IP address he logs in from. How donwe tip the Secret Service or whoever off to buy 3 of his coins and go after him?
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 Posted 10/08/2015  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My date location vis-a-vis the dentils strongly suggests to me that it's an 1894-S with the "S" having been effaced. But this could also easily be simply a modern fake, which would be the path of least resistance nowadays.
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Update! -- This seller has stopped selling coins under his original user name and has started a brand new account under a different ebay user name. http://www.ebay.com/itm/29161541505...RK:MEBIDX:IT .. At that link you can find his current listing for an 1893-CC coin. I reported the seller to ebay, stating he has created a new account and is still trying to push fake coins. This seller lacks any and all scruples. Hopefully one of you can stop this seller before another unsuspecting buyer purchases this fake.
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