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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by Rackster 10/26/2015 10:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not much difference between the 003 and 004 other than the markers. You seeing any?
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United States
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Awesome find!!   ? I was thinking the 1938 WDDR-001 or 1938 WDDR-008
Edited by OcalaFlorida 10/26/2015 10:52 pm
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Hi guys - markers are proving difficult. I did check to see if the 008 die chip was present and while there is something in the vicinity, it's not a match. Here are a couple more shots. Note the T in UNITED. That's an unusual doubling. I haven't seen that in a listing yet. The FIVE does have some 001 earmarks, but I think that there are a couple showing the doubling in FIVE. Back to Brian's pictures. Thanks for the help! I appreciate it.   
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Any images of STATES? That would be helpful.
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 United States
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Hi Coop - I have pics of USA, but here is STATES to get things started. Thanks for having a look! 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The die state makes it hard to tell for sure what die it was from. The nickel in the planchet makes them wear harder on the outer devices. While I see some spread on certain letters, the outside edge spreads are pretty much gone.
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 United States
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Do you have specific areas you'd like me to photograph? The T in UNITED has me scratching my head. How can the spread be so strong there but less so within that device and the neighboring devices?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Note the die flow lines from the outside edge of the devices near the rim. When this happens, it may remove all evidence of hub doubling because of the die wear. But interior edge of the device can remain. Note the ends of the stars on these images:  Note how the die wears away, towards the rim. Even proof nickels suffer from die fatigue with only 3,000 coins made by each set of dies. (6,000 total strikes as proof coins are struck more than once) But note on the tops of these devices:  Note the die flow on the tops of the devices. Even cents experience this with the large number of coins made from them.  Another factor on your coin is coin wear. On the top of the "T" you can see a hiding of spread because of coin wear. (same on the second "T" on STATES) The tops of the EPU are so deteriorated, that if there was hub doubling there, it is no longer.
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 United States
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Yes - lost in the die wash.
For a 77 year old coin and being able to see the DD evidence, not a bad find (and one of the better condition coins for the date I've found CRH). I suspect it sat around someplace safe for a period of time. And I still haven't found a listing at Brian's site that has the spread in UNITED like the T in my specimen. Leaning towards 003, but maybe it's another unlisted variety.
A good box overall with many older and variety coins. I still need to post a couple so with time this week, I could use the extra eyes from our fellow enthusiasts. Thanks for the input folks!
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This is another 1938 I found this past weekend. Interestingly, it also has the UNITED with the split in the top right T. But this looks different from the first. I will need to check my stock of 1938s this weekend. 
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A good box, Rackster. I guess the first one is an unlisted DD. The second one looks good also, I'll be watching for it. 
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