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Green Crud On Buffalo Nickels

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Hi Everyone,

I had my Buffalo nickel collection in a Whitman coin folder and purchased a Dansco folder and started transferring the coins over. As I took the coins out of the old folder there was green crud on the back of the several coins. I'll looking for some help on getting this off or I'm going to have to purchase all those coins again.
Help would be greatly appreciated.

Craig

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 Posted 11/01/2015  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both copper and nickel salts are green.

Chemically copper nickel alloy is more stable then bronze or copper, but complex hydroxycarbonate copper salts (verdigris) can form, given the right conditions.
Those salts can be more complex chemically, with nickel involved as well, or can occur as an integrated mixture of copper and nickel salts.

What you see here is chemically very similar to bronze disease (verdigris).
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Thanks sel_69l,
I would really like to know if there is something that will dissolve it. The Whitman folder must have some kind of acid in it.

Thanks for your reply.

Craig
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That's a shame.

Maybe acetone would help.

Anybody here ever try acetone on a nickel?

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I don't think acetone would do anything to these nickels. might want to use Verdi-care. it's hard to believe that a Whitman album did all that corrosion .
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I agree T-BOP that the Whitman folder shouldn't do that but the only crud is on the back (reverse) and edge of the coin. The only part touching the coin. I just ordered some Verdi-Care thanks to this form.

Thanks for the reply,
Craig
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Craig,

Would you please post some "After" pics following the Verdi-Care treatment? I understand it works well on copper but I don't recall anything about nickels.

BadThad....a little help please...
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My Verdi-Care treatments on copper didn't work too well. I was never able to rid the deposits.
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i would start with an acetone soak before the verdi-care, to see if you can knock off any large pieces. maybe a little help from a toothpick could get some of that crud off. then try the verdi-care, and I hope it will work out well
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Acetone and Verdi-Care should do the trick.
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Verdi-Care is your best bet.
Organic acetone will do nothing to remove insoluble non organic copper and nickel salts.
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I'd suggest just trying Acetone. Possibly a small brush in the Acetone on those might help. Not much to loose. Remember to not use the Acetone over and over. Use new stuff each time. As to how, Whitman and all Folders are made using a glue to glue done the slotted cardboard onto a piece of paper. Not a high quality method. Usually much of the glue is on the slots where the rear of the coins are. In moist areas, this glue gets activated and attacks the rear of coins. going from Whitman to Dansco may not be to smart since possibly same problem. Is the empty have a shine to it. If so, that is the glue so you may end up getting the same results.
Although more expensive, this is why so many change to Albums.
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Try soaking in olive oil for a few days,, can't hurt and its cheap.
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...olive oil for a few days


I would add that the OP should keep in mind that significantly extended immersion times in olive oil are capable of creating an acidic environment likely to cause mild etching depending upon the nature of the substrate and pH measurement.

Once I had a severe problem higher grade coin and kept it soaked in olive oil for over a week only to find that the patina had been damaged with obvious etching.

I never tried this but testing the olive oil periodically with pH test strips could be a method to avoid costly mistakes from significantly lowered pH values...
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Olive oil is often used in the cleaning of ancient coins after the recovery from burial.

Olive oil has the capacity to soften chemical encrustations, but it is also slightly acidic. This is why ancient bronze and copper coins that have been cleaned with the assistance of a good soaking in olive oil, can turn out black or at least very dark. You have to be aware of the negatives and positives when using.
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Thank you everyone for all your help on my problem. I will try all of them once I replace the crud nickels with newer ones.

Craig
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