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'72 P Kennedy W/ OBV Doubling E, T & Y Of Liberty

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'72-P-Kennedy-W/-OBV-Doubling-E,-T-&-Y-Of-Liberty

'72-P-Kennedy-W/-OBV-Doubling-E,-T-&-Y-Of-Liberty

'72-P-Kennedy-W/-OBV-Doubling-E,-T-&-Y-Of-Liberty

'72-P-Kennedy-W/-OBV-Doubling-E,-T-&-Y-Of-Liberty

'72-P-Kennedy-W/-OBV-Doubling-E,-T-&-Y-Of-Liberty
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I'm thinking this is machine damage on the devices. The overall size of the devices are normal in size. But areas are pushed from die movement during the strike.
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Not this time. There's added area with the strongest spread on the Y.
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This is different, Durkastani, it was double struck by a normal die. Strike Doubling occurs when the die inadvertently moves during the strike.
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Doubled die is doubled on the die it self and a double strike is a mechanical damage

Strike Doubling tends to be flat and have features that look like they were dragged across.

A true doubled die would show the same rounded shape as the original die but it could be distorted or rotated.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with Strike Doubling. I've seen tons of it. There are no flattened or dragged devices in these pictures however.
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You'll notice a trend with my posts. If I'm unsure of what I have, there will usually be question marks involved in the post. If there aren't any of those, I'm telling you what I have and am sharing it. You don't have to agree with what I've posted of course :-).
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That's fair enough Durkastani. I respect what you are saying. To be honest with you I do see what looks to me, like some interesting notching. At the same time however, I will continue to believe what Coop says, because I have found his analyses of coins to be correct 99.9% of the time. No one on this site or any other is infallible, so I strongly advise anyone interested in improving their numismatic skills to learn from him.
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I lean on COOP'S expertise heavily. For one thing, he's always amenable in his responses which is refreshing. I equally appreciate your input as well CM. Thank you both for all of your insights.
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Idk why Kennedy halves have a lot of what looks to be notching on the T and Y I usually ignore it. But yours extended to the E are you sure there is nothing on the other letters? I would look buy the TRUST on the obverse by the why if anything else will show it will be there.
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Out of the Kennedy varieties in the CPG, there is only three what show doubling on the letters of LIBERTY. The rest are mostly on the motto only.
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Usually, when I find the "T" notched like that, the "I" of "IN" is also doubled. Is yours that way?
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Actually, you're right Agrippa, and now that I look closer there is a notch on the 1 of the date as well
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