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Canadian Token Or What?

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Found this is a bargain box and the 2x2 was labelled 'Canadian Token'. I've looked and looked and I cannot find it as a Canadian token, is it perhaps Irish? If it truly is Canadian I think I'll retire from token researching, well maybe. Any help is truly appreciated.
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I'm no expert but it looks like a real Irish halfpenny token.
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SilverStacker, DBM, I agree it looks so much like what ya'll posted except mine has NO date. I've looked exceptionally close at it and there's not a hint of a date anywhere on it. I'll keep looking and I really appreciate your time and efforts. Thanks. Think I'll check into Irish and Great Britain and see what develops.
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 Posted 11/09/2015  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one possibility?

Cheers, Bill

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Could be what they call a borderline token
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That is an Irish half penny. Hounddog Bill's is of an Irish penny they are very similar but yours is definitely a half penny. I believe you would only get that one in 1805 or 1806 but not 100% sure. The date is the first thing that rubs out as it was a weak strike(info on that found here http://www.irishcoinage.com/J01039.HTM ) I have a few of these is similar or slightly better condition.
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Here is another coin with a similar look that shows up in Canada. According to Charlton, it was struck in Ireland and some with weak legends made their way to Canada. I think this one may be a weakly struck high grade coin. Not sure.

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Have a look here and scroll down to paragraph that begins with "Wood's Hibernia series consisted of ....". At the end of the paragraph is an interesting statement.
http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/Col...a.intro.html

The meaning of "Exergue". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/exergue
Hope this helps.
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When I replied earlier something about this coin seemed familiar and I've looked through some older world coins I have and came up with a coin like yours.
This may help in letting you know where to look for the date at least but I suspect it will be 1805 - 06.
I'm sure I read an article about these being used in the east coast by early Irish immigrants as they all seemed to live in certain locations (eg. east side of Halifax). They spoke Irish and lived in their Irish ways.
So many of these coins were brought here and circulated here throughout the east coast especially within the Irish communities.
I hope someone else can remember reading this article.

Weight is 8.4 grams and it's approximately 28 mm wide.

Cheers, Bill

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I appreciate everyone looking and posting, thank you for your time and interest. My final conclusion is I just don't know but it does indeed look like the one hounddog bill posted; and after EXTRA, EXTRA magnification there "might be" remnant of a '5' below the harp. For me, I'm going to label it date unknown and let it rest; besides my eyes are tired. Again, thanks everyone very much.
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