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Here we go. Why not throw a grade in here while we are also trying to understand these strike problems with this series..? Do you feel that the strike's here are weak,.. normal,.. or strong for the 2 25's .. ....and then what are the opinions about this obverse on my 26..? I do know that Micky uses the tip of the mustache as an important visual..but as to strength of strike,..I don't know.. A full and rounded 2 nd set of beads would probably be the greatest one to find when searching for a strong strike..but do they exist..? Thanks for sharing your opinions and expertise here.. 1925...#1   1925 #2   1926...  . . Edited by DEVLEC
11/20/2015 5:57 pm
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I am really not sure where those fit. Based on the examples we have seen, these could be anywhere in the AU to MS range. The band at the bottom of the crown does not have the wear on the 2nd square jewel that is is seen in the VF-EF graded versions, which is why I am thinking AU-MS.
I have a 1926 AU58, and it's band does not show wear on the jewels, but the lower bust is similar to yours. Though the mustache does not have a lot of definition.
This has become an interesting series, I would love to see some really nicely struck 1925/26 examples.
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Why not add you detailed and crisp pics in here for a more complete comparison.."The more the merrier"..?
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I'm thinking if you can learn to grade these George V nickels, you can work for a TPG. The second pair of jewels is almost always less distinct. The three flowers(?) in the garland, especially the lowest one, can be flattened blobs even on high MS examples. Seems like the moustache tip can also be a false indicator. Maybe it's a combination of moustache, eyebrow, crown band in the middle? I'm going to say MS62-63 on the first two and AU55 on the 1926, and be wrong. Seems like TPGs have problems with these as well. Here's an NGC MS65 that I would swear is a specimen strike - look at the detail in the garland etc. http://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/worl...bnail-071515 |
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Here is an NGC AU58 1926 N   |
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I think leafs on the reverse can be a good point to look for (weak strike).
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Yes the tips of the leaves are also an important reverse grading point..I would think..(Mikey has tried to teach me..) Here's the 26 reverse to compare the with others here..All of the 25's and 26 were taken almost directly into the low sun yesterday. They do show every little detail/contact or flaw very brightly,..and it's also shooting through 2 sheets of plastic.. ...they just don't flatter the coins surface with such intense light on it..  Now that link to the 25 shows an amazing coin. I see a bit of slight possible die pitting below the beard in what I would also call a possible specimen strike.. The 2 nd set of beads are actually crisp and round.. and I don't think that I've ever see that before..at least not as perfectly round as that.. ..and great photography to actually see the beads and coin surface so well .. . . What a truly wonderful 25 nickel to view... Edited by DEVLEC
11/21/2015 10:17 am
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Here's photography that flatters a coins surface. ....without too much light blasting it..and leaving a softer blue overtone..   |
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This is not a 25 or 26 but it shows an above average strike for comparison. What you also have to be mindful of on these is the dies showed signs of premature wear also and this shouldn't be confused with a weak strike. Cheers,Bill   |
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I would say the first 1925 and 1926 are high AU and the second 1925 is low MS
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Thanks for the added 5 cent pics.. Very nice to see them..and very useful to compare with here.. ..and thanks for the additional grades being offered here by all.. purelywasted.. Could you bring that nickel of yours back here without the dull yellow view..? It looks like a low pixel pic on my screen. Bill. ..nice sharp pics of that 31... Here are 2 more views of the same 26 nickel with a softer light and more pleasing view.. In hand..the 26 is a very nice nickel. Presenting a lot of luster across both sides..and a nice strike..for that very tough series.. Please add a few more if you can..     That 31 is wonderful and just look at the details in the garland around his chest..near perfect with my eyes.. ...but then look at the center line of jewels running up to the top of that crown. There is softness there and incomplete jewels..but in my 26 showing here,..the center line of jewels is well formed and much more complete. So,..does that make the 26 a better strike over the 31 or is it just die wear in the 31..? ..or different patterns of wear..? This is where we need expert opinions here..because,..I'm only guessing.. . . Edited by DEVLEC
11/21/2015 1:44 pm
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DEVLEC, that 1926 really confuses me. In the first picture I see wear in the crown, eyebrow, moustache tip, ribbon and shoulder. Second set of pictures, it looks MS. Bill, that 1931 has a beautiful strike. I've given up trying to get decent photos of mine (mediocre strike I think), so I'm going for the artsy look.   |
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Devlec, please come back and post the actual grades.
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"DEVLEC, that 1926 really confuses me." In the first picture I see wear in the crown, eyebrow, moustache tip, ribbon and shoulder. It's all in the type and brilliance of the light hitting the coins surface. Full sun will render all shots too bright but great for the very fine details and then blow it up to 100x.. "In hand" with a 5x loop is what you want to use and not to blow up a small coin to the size of a dinner plate. The 25's are high AU,..but Mikey(in his hands) calls this 26 a 63,..but not quite that high for me.IMO There is no wear on the band or beads..but there are a few fine obv field contacts or field rubs on it. The 26 has a great strike and the mustache is perfect.(Mikey) You rarely find a full 2nd set of beads (read never) and very often you won't even see the 2nd set of beads and the band is mostly found weakly struck at that same 2nd set of beads in business strikes. ...but the George V nickels can still be MS even with this normally seen weaker strike. This 26 is a better than average strike..IMO. |
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Fields tell me all three are au55 to au58.
Personally, I have a tough time grading this series.
What I've learned from ICCS grading is they don't give a hoot about beads or moustache. They grade MS strictly by the purity of the fields.
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These coins are all under graded in the current holders. (DEVLECs) They are all UNC. If resubmitted today to I Cant Correctly See they would get 63(shot at 64) 63 and one 25 would get a 62. IMO. I tried to show you with my 25 in 65 and 26f in 64 lolol
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