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Chinese Cash Coins.what Years?

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Hope I'm in the correct forum. Can anyone help me out identifying the years of these coins.Just no good with the characters. Have a look. Thx.

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 Posted 11/22/2015  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For starters, the bottom left coin is the only one that's not upside down. I'll start looking and tell you if I find anything.

By the way, I believe the coins are all Qing dynasty, 1644-1911.
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Top coin: Emperor Jen Tsung, AD 1796-1820, Yunnan mint. S-1492.

Bottom left coin: Emperor Kao Tsung, AD 1736-1795, Chekiang mint. S-1470.

Bottom right coin: Emperor Kao Tsung, AD 1736-1795, mint name Pao-chi. S-1467.

I believe these are commonly (and easily) counterfeited. If they are real, don't expect much price wise.
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Like I said...
thanks.will keep checking back
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The possibility of fakes I assume exists.Yes?
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Yes. By the way, where did you get them? These are kind of interesting to identify, and they're quite cheap. I've gotten a few handfuls over the years. If you do find more, Calgary Coins has a website that's great for identifying any pre-1911 Chinese coins.
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Nope. not selling ,just was interested to know.
Appreciate info.Thanks
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Cardboard box at a garage sale. She gave them to me with another purchase(Jane Austen, first edition)
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I wasn't suggesting you should sell, you probably wouldn't get more that a dollar for the three of them.
I'm happy to help wherever I can, as are plenty of other people here.
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At no time did I think that.I got what I expected.
A knowledgeable answer from a forum with knowledgeable members.
And most importantly friendly to all,and often quite funny,
Again thanks
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Yes Calgary coins is a good page to learn about the old Chinese coins.
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Don't fret. They are all genuine. The replicas of these are poor and easy to spot.
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Interesting to note is that the two Kai Tsung cash use his two separate reign titles, Qian Long and Shan Lung. He did not die in 1795 but rather resigned out of respect for his grandfather, who up until that time was the longest reigning emperor in the Qing dynasty, and possibly all of Chinese history. I am a bit fuzzy on the details, but the Shan Lung cash coins were not used before 1770, and are believed to have been issued for several years at least after the emperor abdicated the throne.

Also, all three of these coins were made at different mints. At least one is a provincial mint (not Beijing Board of Revenue or Board of Works), and may be worth very slightly more.

And for why these coins are so common, they are all one cash coins (Tong Bao, the characters at the 3:00 and 9:00 position). The Chinese historically did not trust fiat currency, so large denomination cash coins were either rejected outright and never circulated, or they were massive hockey pucks of bronze and very unpopular for daily commerce. 1,000 cash were equal to one tael of silver, or a little bit over a troy ounce. Silver had a much higher buying power in China, and the emperor kept the supply tightly in check while conducting trade with Spain; trading silk and porcelain for silver dollars from the Americas. This mercantilist approach led to much prosperity for China, and literally billions of these one cash coins were cast to fuel the economy. They each had the equivalent buying power of about 25 cents in their time, and can easily be bought for 50 cents each today.

As others have said, there are fakes of these coins, but they are so plentiful that it is easier to just recover genuine pieces.
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I take it you mean 1736. Also, which coin?
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