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Valued Member
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I posted this coin for grading, but, I also wanted to get opinions on this Morgan's variety. I think it looks like a VAM 1B early die state, but, I'm brand new to Morgan's and am just going by the research I did. Opinions? Comments? Oh, and, yes, I know it's not the most attractive coin! I picked it up at an estate sale.     
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the 1b1 I think. Not at home now to confirm though and I'm not too familiar with the scarface progressions but that rim below the date is indicative of the 1b1 if I remember correctly. Do you feel a big shelf like uneven surface in the field in front of her face? I don't think you will though. Kinda hard to tell fine details through the black
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Could be a VAM 1B2 as well, the wear and ticks in front of the face make it difficult to tell from the photo.
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Valued Member
 United States
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cascade, no I don't feel an uneven surface right in front of her face. I can try to get a better pic of that area.
Thank you for your input :)
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote:Could be a VAM 1B2 as well, the wear and ticks in front of the face make it difficult to tell from the photo Exactly what I thought West.
Edited by dave700x 11/29/2015 4:09 pm
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Can we get some close up photos of the Eagles head, and the "AMERICA" lettering?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Valued Member
 United States
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I didn't forget! I was editing pics. It doesn't look like the eagle is bearded. I don't know if you can see the "Amer" part clear enough. (I know, with the coloring and nicks, it's tough to make out things clearly.) But, I did manage to get some closer pics of the die break and nose, and, in hand and in several pics it sure looks like there may be a die scratch along the inside of the nose that corresponds with VAM 1B3. (But, it at least looks like 1B2) What do you all think? (The one pic with the arrow is one of the fine lines touching the nose)     
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Rest in Peace
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You may want to ask the mods to move this to the VAM section to get more attention.
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Valued Member
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I'm not sure how to do that, dave? It doesn't seem like there has been a lot of activity on the classic coin section overall this past week. Maybe people are still sleepy from last weeks turkey? ;)
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Rest in Peace
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Use the report post icon in the bottom right corner and ask to have this moved to the VAM forum.
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Moved.  Thanks for helping d_dob, dave700x. 
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Valued Member
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Thank you dave and jbuck!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm sorta leaning toward a H-7 stage although the level of wear and/or corrosion makes determination difficult. Since you have the coin in hand, why don't you refer to the great synopsis of stages that Ash researched? Here is a link to the material which can be found toward the end of this VAMView PDF... PG http://www.ssdcvams.com/VAMview9.pdf
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Valued Member
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Quote: I'm sorta leaning toward a H-7 stage although the level of wear and/or corrosion makes determination difficult. paleoguy, that's what I thought, too. I saw that excellent link, thank you! You can see the die cracks much better in hand, although, like ash said, it is tough to see the die crack along the inside of the nose. You do have to hold it at just the right angle. And, yeah, the deterioration doesn't help matters lol
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Well Charlie is right V1b2 Harrison stage 7. The H-7 is a harder stage to find but in that condition it become more of a hole filler for the H collection set collectors.
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