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Hi, just wanted to know if the rotated dies were pretty common. I have mostly been a collector of the wheat cents and it wasn't until I came across a 1972 D cent that I really noticed the rotated die error. I have 2 1972 Master Die doubled coins - one is rotated a good bit so I looked up on the Lincoln Cent website about them and sure enough they have them noted for what I have. But I have others in years not listed. Do they only list the 90+ ones. Are they of any value to sell? Thanks |
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If you study a year/mm long enough for any given denomination, you'll probably find some degree of rotation. Most of the rotation out there is within mint tolerances, but as a rule of thumb folks expect to see 45 degrees of rotation or more before premiums start to become decent. The 1972D you have is an example of a sought year/mm amongst LMCs. Re: the master doubling - a very large population of these exist so there's no premium for that. But with the rotation, your coin has some value. Best value comes in the higher grades of course, so hopefully your specimen is just that.
Good luck on the hunt!
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Thanks, If you want to check back I will put some pictures My 1972 I would say at least EF40, punched a little high and also rotated date with the Master Die doubling. I'll need to pull out my 1972D and do the same. I had them posted up before because I thought at first they were DDO. But, those posts are not showing on my list of posts. |
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On some series, yes. Others, no.
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Thanks, great link. I am still trying to figure out how to measure the degree of rotation. The link on the LincolnCent website is not working. If you can help with that as well that would be amazing.
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There should be a section in your photo management software where you can rotate an image a certain number of degrees. If you rotate it until it is vertical, it will tell you how many degrees it took.
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 Exactly what I do :D Additionally you can use a protractor to measure degrees, or estimate. It's best you put it in a flip first, make sure you line it up straight on one side. Also it's usually only worth checking degrees of rotation if it looks to be about 30+ which should be pretty obvious. The 45+ range usually carry a premium, unless it is a proof coin, anything else you might just want to keep for yourself if you like it. I always thought mint tolerance was 20 degrees- Some sources like this one say it's 7: http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Art...icleId=21771Some say 15 degrees: http://www.lincolncentforum.com/ter...gy-list-q-r/Edited by BlueSolo
11/29/2015 12:41 pm
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Great info and links (I have them Favorited now) Thank you. Unfortunately my photo program (paint.net) only has option for 90 or 180 degree rotation.
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excellent stuff  blue solo |
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To imagine 45 degrees, take a square box. The draw a line from on corner to the opposite corner. That is 45 degrees.  |
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Ocala: I've found 3 good examples of rotated dies now so I'm familiar with the resources. :D
I also found a few minor rotated dies which are within mint spec, I kept them anyways since you don't happen to find them too often. I got really lucky in my area with the rotated dies though. I've been collecting a little under a year and found 3 while I know many others have been collecting longer and haven't found one. So I'm not the best statistic to go by for the rarity of rotated dies.
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great finds and all three on nickel too |
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Thank you all for your help and educating me on the rotations. They are pretty cool.  |
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Posted 11/28/2015 11:39 pm
