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1900 5 Cents SD

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 Posted 12/05/2015  11:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The owner of my LCS got a new batch of 5 cent pieces today. A great collection with many high grade coins. He gave me first pick and I was very happy. I was able to fill a few holes in my set and also upgrade a few years. This is one of those upgrades.

What do you think?




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 Posted 12/06/2015  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gtcrafter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how do I grade my coin I have a red 1942 no rust wondering how to grade it can u help me
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 Posted 12/06/2015  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gtcrafter- grading is like most other things, it takes hours of dedicated practice to master (something I still haven't accomplished myself) but the more coins you look at and the more you read about it, the easier it becomes.

For all coins, there are higher spots which begin to wear first. In the case of my coin, that is the braid on the obverse and the tips of the leaves on the reverse. For your coin, it is the earlobe, eyebrows and hair. A Mint State (MS) coin will show no wear in those areas but may show miniscule marks (bag marks) throughout the coin. This is from production at the mint or handling thereafter. Other factors including damage(in any form) greatly affect the grade of the coin and may (in some instances) make your coin un-gradable or severely affect the grade. In the case of my coin, there is a scratch on the queen's neck which will definitely come into play in the grade.

A good start would be http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins-grading.php.
This website will give you examples of certain grades and a small description of what led to that grading.
Books such as the Charlton Standard Catalogue have great information in them with respect to grading and both of these resources have helped me immensely.

This website is also a great tool, look at the submissions in the grading section and test yourself that way. Don't be afraid to give your grade and opinions on why you arrived at that conclusion. This is a great environment for learning and people will only help you learn from your mistakes. It's fun and it's great practice!

If you are looking for a grade on your coin, I suggest uploading clear pictures of both sides of the coin using the tools provided within this website.

Hope some of this advice helps, it's a large topic that cannot completely be covered by me but some of these tips will help you on your way.
Happy Collecting!
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 Posted 12/06/2015  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin. I couldn't tell you if it was AU58 or somewhere in the MS63 range because I am not too familiar with the high points on this queen's obverse. The reverse looks MS to me though!

Hopefully someone else can help more than this
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 Posted 12/06/2015  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will chime in at MS 62.
The scratches on the Neck keeps it from a higher grade.

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 Posted 12/10/2015  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS61.
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 Posted 12/10/2015  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice small date..
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 Posted 12/10/2015  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! I don't have Canadian fivers going back that far, so pardon my ignorance; is it the same small size as the later 20th century five-cents that came before the beaver? And if this is a small date, can I presume there's a large date? Has to be a choice-AU.

Very nice intro/explanation to our new member.[AgHoarder]

The grading page for Victorian 5-centers has the following [I'm copy&pasting]:

MS-60

Coins in this grade are ugly, dinged-up, bag-marked, ill-toned specimens, but they are in mint condition and free of any wear.


http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...ictoria&id=8

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AU58 ..or up to MS60,..but with a strong strike ..
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Devlec - are you net grading it AU because of the scratch or do you see wear?
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I'm inclined to say AU58 because of the protected lustre visible in the protected areas on the obverse (in the legend). It's not apparent on the reverse though - a little cabinet friction perhaps?
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Quote:
Devlec - are you net grading it AU because of the scratch or do you see wear?


Always a guessing game with internet pics.. That's why I give a little spread here..

I looked at the cheek...then I looked at the fields and they seem a bit of a lack of full luster ..except in the legend (protected area).. The interior of the nose shows a lot of frosty luster whereas the cheek does not..
The eyelid looks good though..

Maybe a touch of wear,..and maybe not..58 to 60..

Hey, !!.. I'm still an amateur at grading ..but I like to try..
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