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Damaged 1879 And 1921 Morgans

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Hi all,
Within a small lot I picked up the following.
Rim Damaged 1879. reverse of 78. Details grade I assume.
1921 Drilled.. In addition 4 small drill holes.
Why would it be drilled like that? Not to confirm silver,, surely?


These are never going to have value above silver but picked up in a lot of Dollars/Walking Liberty halves at 6.7oz for $80. $12 per oz.

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 Posted 12/16/2015  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '21 was probably drilled to hang on a chain of some sort, I would guess.
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 Posted 12/16/2015  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverexile to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I got that, the big drill hole, I was thinking more of the two small drill indentations on each side. Seem to serve no purpose...
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Test drill bits. If you only have a coin on you when you need to test drill bits, and no pieces of metal, and a silver dollar is only a silver dollar, then go for it. I'm sure those holes are pre-1960
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I could see that may be the case, but seems.... Improbable.. Even pre 60 who would drill Morgan's like that..?
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The hole was not meant for jewelry due to placement obviously. I have a morgan with perfect shallow circular indents just like that too but with no big hole which my theory is being shot by a BB gun. Like Ralphie just got his Red Ryder and needed a target.

So woth you're coin and the hole placement I'm postulating that the it was holed to hang either as a target or as a bird deterrent on a tree... and it was used as a BB gun target ... from a distance anything over say 30ft unless the kid is a crack shot that's why it's not "shot up" with only 4 "hits"

Again, this is just a theory as the hole could have been for a keyring but then who knows how the perfectly spherical indents haopened so I defer to my previous summation because its plausible and explains everything lol
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12/17/2015 08:40 am
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Here's my BB target morgan...

https://goccf.com/t/229545
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Tried some close up photos though loupe.. They are very perfect little holes. The BB gun is plausible. Having never shot one I don't know if they have the power to do this...?

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Ultimately, its 1921 junk now.

Now, how about that 1879...?
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Cascade, Thanks for the link, yep, look v similar...
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You're very welcome exile. I'm 99.9% sure our coins were bb gun targets. I'm actually gonna get a cull out and try it eventually to compare.

And as far as you're 79s goes that's a WINNER!.. Even a damaged 79s with the reverse of 78 is a TOP 100 VAM... Its more coin than you think
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Having never shot one I don't know if they have the power to do this


Older BB guns will definitely leave marks in silver. The modern pellet rifles will punch right through the coin. They are actually hunting water buffalo with modern day air rifles.
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Is it worth sending the 79 to grading forum, I assumed just details. I would also like to know if it has any value left..
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Put it up in the VAM forum with clear, crisp pics and we'll see which it is. This could change the value depending on which one it is. Grade appears to be xf/au details from rim damage and a possible light old cleaning but it still has some value even if it's a more common 78 rev
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I'd keep the 1879 Rev 78.

In general I think circulated grades are undervalued.

And it's a Top 100 variety: http://www.vamworld.com/Top+100+Morgan+VAMs

The downside? You might become hopelessly dedicated to the VAM world. :)

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