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1983 Or 1988 Lincoln Cent Die Cap? Help Me ID It Please!

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I posted this before but used the seller's pictures. I got it in my hand and I feel I see the date as 1983 but I am not 100% sure so I am hoping you guys can aid me in this. I took the bestpics possible from different light angles. Let me know if you agree that it's 1983 or a different date. Picture 6 is a photoshop edit to and I think shows best how the 3 is depicted from the contrast shadows.
Thanks.


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Any Reverse images? I didn't open them all. That might help.
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 Posted 01/27/2008  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here's an image of the reverse


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 Posted 01/27/2008  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A reverse image will quickly define the difference between 1983 and 1988.
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 Posted 01/27/2008  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its an 83 ,,no doubt ,,the third obverse pictures makes it clear .

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 Posted 01/27/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is also a "wide A M"
Did you try an old trick, by using some paper, and a wide pencil lead to move across the date? It eill hit the hugh spots, and "MAYBE" help.
Dick
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01/27/2008 6:43 pm
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 Posted 01/27/2008  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/..._diecap8.jpg
coop, coppercoins, that reverse picture?
MEtalman, I also think 83, but hey I sometimes even think it's an 85 lol
livingdinasaur, I am going to try the pencil thing.
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Either 1983 or 1985. Can't be 1988.
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 Posted 01/28/2008  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Still not conclusive but I lean toward a 1983

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 Posted 01/28/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noel biscocho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys,

I just want to ask what's the difference between a die cap in relation to Struck Through Grease error coin

Thanks
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 Posted 01/28/2008  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a die cap the previous coin gets stuck to the hammer die ( the one that comes down ) and strikes the next planchet with it capped off. In a struck thru error it is grease or something else that gets in the way of the planchet and dies and gets struck through onto the planchet.
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Ok, the image still doesn't show what I needed. Here are a few examples of the 1983-1987 reverses.
1983-Or-1988-Lincoln-Cent-Die-Cap?-Help-Me-ID-It-Please!

I looked at a couple of the reverses from 1983 and noticed a weakness (well in my examples) on the statue area.
On the 1984-1986 there was a double line below the statue.
On 1987-92 the stronger design is present. No doubled line on pedestal.
So take a look and see what you see there? The double line below the statue or the weaker statue. That might be the answer as to what year you have?
I re-checked your image and it looks like it has the doubled line above the pedestal. so 1985 or 86?
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01/28/2008 9:15 pm
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 Posted 01/29/2008  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noel biscocho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the coin is a cap die struck through error, am I right in my conclusion.
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It is struck though another coin. The term strike though error usually means grease/wire/string/thread/cloth what ever gets in the way. But in the case of a die cap, what is described happens. The upper die is capped with a planchet and continues to strike other coins till the problem is corrected. The planchet is removed and the process goes on till the next problem happens.
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 Posted 01/29/2008  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks coop, under better lighting it is VERY similar to the 83 that you posted. Thanks!
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 Posted 01/29/2008  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great. So the question did have an answer. I was glad I asked about the reverse.
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