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1888 Indian Head Cent

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This coin was extremely difficult to photograph. I can usually get some decent pictures, but after about 200 tries, this was the best I could get. The surfaces are semi-prooflike. It is a glowing full red color. I originally bought it to go into a Dansco, however after carefully examining this coin, I think this will need to be graded. I put a plastic case over the coin while taking these pictures, so the scratches you see are on the plastic, not the coin.

The only marks to mention are a small one above the S in STATES on the obverse and a small mark on the E in CENT on the reverse. I took it to two local dealers yesterday and both said the color looks natural and the coin looks uncleaned.

Let me know what you think....Thanks,


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 Posted 12/20/2015  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another picture of the obverse taken at an angle and in different light.


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 Posted 12/20/2015  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos might be deceiving, but but color looks off and appears to be cleaned. MS-63 details.
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MS64RD. Might make MS65RD.

VERY beautiful IHC.
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This a well struck coin with lots of luster. If we accept the fact that two dealers claim the color is natural and uncleaned then I would say MS65RD. Beautiful coin.
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I agree with IHGE. Stay away from this one.
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I think it is completely natural. Most likely an MS Red. I have no idea what number it would have from thise pictures, but it could be 65.
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OP has coin in hand. I do not see anything at all that would make me think this coin has been cleaned: fields look well done up with no hairlines, luster is evident in both pictures, no unnatural toning around legends or devices. The second picture makes the coin look PL.

For those of you who are stating that the coin has been cleaned, what do you see that makes you suspect this? I have looked at a few dozen MS red's on Heritage and they look like this one, with varying degrees of red. Personally, I have a 63RB 1876 (PCGS) and a 64RB 1889 (PCGS/Eagle Eye) and they look like OP's coin but slightly more brown as you would expect from a RB IHC.

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I'm guessing the pics aren't representative of what the color looks like in hand. The first two pics if I saw it on ebay I would pass right on by but I trust Red's judgement with IHC's and figure it's bad pics.
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Thanks for the replies....Im going to sign up for a PCGS membership in January and send this off with a few others. I'm sure Ive got 3 others to send in.

By the way, this is one of the mid 1880s dates that Rick Snow's guide says that "The color varies depending on the source of the metal. Since 1886, older coins were being melted for recoinage. The uniformity was difficult to maintain and many full red coins of the 1886-1888 years look slightly paler than other years before and after."

This coin is a paler red, but its still full red IMO.
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It really is very difficult to make a judgment from these pics.
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I agree with paralyse, definitely MS-64 and I could see it as MS-65
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She is a real beauty. Stop back by this spring and let us know how it graded!

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What the heck guys. this coin is a gorgeous full strike
MS-65RD with a challenge to 66 . NOT cleaned IMO .
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MS-64 RD, possibly higher.
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is it possible it could be a proof?
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