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Grading Morgans-'correctly'

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I wanted to do a little experiment in human perception and how subjective grades are.

Firstly, I want to show this photo that I have had from Rick Snow for at least 4 years now. It shows Morgan high points that customarily receive the initial wear:

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Thank you. I have a lot to learn in the area of grading. Visuals help A LOT
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Next I'm showing you the already graded Morgan which needs about four to five opinions insofar as the correct grade.

Obviously, I'll disclose the TPG's name once all is concluded...

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Once I have these opinions I'll continue with my narrative later on.
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Snow's picture forgot the wing tips and cheek.

Your 2nd Morgan is MS63 with a slightly weak obverse strike for an '80-S. The pictures make no determination of luster or prooflike surfaces possible.
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The photos are not the best but I'd say MS65.
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MS63 is the ceiling for this Morgan. The reverse really limits it.
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Seen worse called 65. The reverse hardly matters when the graders grade these coins. If it passed me in the grading room I would be at MS64 as the reverse really does detract in this case. I think this one is an NGC coin.
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MS-64.
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Looks like a 64.

That's the same style as PCGS pictures and I'll guess they called it a 58
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With that right reverse field I can't go higher than MS-63. That's a big detractor for sure.
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Here's another shot of the reverse since some felt the first one was a bit fuzzy:

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If there are any changes, let me know.

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Still at 63 but possibly semi-PL or PL reverse.
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The coin does not show wear, but the cheek and reverse do exhibit what could be considered circulation rub and a grade of AU 58 would not surprise me. I am still at MS 63.
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