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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the quarter has spent some time in the dirt.
Buried coins can take on a dark brown coloring, sometimes splotchy look.
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Moderator
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 to CCF fellow Michigander. I agree with PSD,ground find. John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
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A coin with missing clad layers would be very weakly struck, since the planchet would be extremely thin. This is dirt money.
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I am not ready to buy that dirt is the reason. I notice that a lot of the comments on here seem to be sarcastic or of a jocular form. I hope this is not the case. What do you recommend for a professional opinion on understanding what this coin was subjected to? do you recommend a Grading company or is there some other way like special measurements, or some metrics that can explain the condition of the coin? You say dirt but based on what? personal opinion ? A lot of other coins that look the same? or; "The Federal mint would never let a copper blank get by" reasoning? what other reasons? What chemicals or environmental conditions could cause a coin with a nickel clad look copper? I don't profess to be a chemist but understanding how this coin can look like this would be of great interest to me. I would swear it is a copper surface!
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Sorry if it sounded like we were joking, but this coin shows all the signs of having been buried in the ground. Many clad coins that were once buried exhibit coppery surfaces and corrosion (like on the obverse of this example). I am no chemist, but I am going to propose (correct me please if this is incorrect) that the copper color is caused by chemicals corroding the nickel, leaving the copper (which already makes up 75% of the outer layers of the coin). You can keep it if you like, but a TPG is a waste of money unless the coin is worth more than about $200. This one is worth $0.25. Most likely, this was dug up by a metal detectorist who cashed it at the bank. |
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I am not ready to buy that dirt is the reason. I notice that a lot of the comments on here seem to be sarcastic or of a jocular form. I hope this is not the case. What do you recommend for a professional opinion on understanding what this coin was subjected to? do you recommend a Grading company or is there some other way like special measurements, or some metrics that can explain the condition of the coin? You say dirt but based on what? personal opinion ? A lot of other coins that look the same? or; "The Federal mint would never let a copper blank get by" reasoning? what other reasons? What chemicals or environmental conditions could cause a coin with a nickel clad look copper? I don't profess to be a chemist but understanding how this coin can look like this would be of great interest to me. I would swear it is a copper surface! Why come on here and ask questions if you do not believe the answers? Why not appreciate the FREE advice you have been given? Sounds like you have already made up your own mind about this coin, and are looking for someone to agree with that. If you truly feel you have something of value, send it to a professional grading company. They will most likely come back to you with the same results you received here, but charge you for it. Edited by seal006
01/01/2016 08:56 am
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Pillar of the Community
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You can still see some of the clad on the Obverse. It definitely came came from the ground.
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Fair enough, understanding the copper to nickel ratio seems to bring it into a better perspective. I was not aware that the nickel would corrode but it does make sense in that only the copper is left behind. Am I wrongly thinking the nickel is mixed in as a property to resist corrosion or does the mint use the nickel for a different purpose? Thank You!
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Bedrock of the Community
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A quarter missing a clad layer would have a very similar appearance to a cent on the missing clad side, it would be either Mint Red or oxidized with a brown patina. The quarter pictured below is a no-brainer since some of the cladding was retained but notice the appearance similarity with that of a cent and it also displays some strike weakness from being thinner than normal-  Your coin plainly displays the clad on the obverse so you should still be able to see it on the edge but it is not visible since the coin is stained from environmental damage. Finally, if you are still not convinced that you simply have a damaged coin, put it on a scale and see that it has a normal weight(my quarter pictured above weighs 4.6 grams). |
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It may have lost some weight from corrosion, so take that into account when weighing it.
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I'm not a coin expert but I metal detect. This looks like a dug coin.
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Weight of the coin?
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Bedrock of the Community
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If the coin were missing cladding, then the devices might be weaker than normal. I'm not seeing that on your coin. It looks like it spent sometime outdoors. The red is also not deep enough.  |
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I have the same quarter! 1979 d copper quarter :-)   |
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Dug / outside coin ...sorry
clad coins found outside take on my different color ranges
all you can do is clean it up
when I get these type of dirty coins ...I throw them in my rock tumbler
it gets them somewhat presentable to spend
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