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Fake 1858 Canada Large Cent?

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doesn't look right at all
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1858-Canada...AOSw5ZBWO4kT

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 Posted 01/05/2016  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar 1935 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Extremely bad quality '' made in China '' counterfeit.

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That's a fake there. I think you have to put it in the counterfeit section to have it deleted for the ebay site though. There's a special topic forum for that under the Canadian section.
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i just did
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but my thread was jusy bumped from there..this guy "smartpc15" also has a 1923 fake as well
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I saw it on the counterfeit forum for a second then it disappeared. Maybe they're already removing the listing. The same seller has a fake 1923 1 cent coin.
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Remember to read the rules about posting counterfeits properly.

This guy has sold a couple of the 1858s ... shame.
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This guy has sold a couple of the 1858s ... shame.

and a couple 1923's as well,he knows he is ripping people off
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If I remember right, it (the counterfeit 1858) was made by Big Tree? in China. You can always tell these because of the die crack & chip at the crown tip in Dei on the Obverse. That D/C is actually on the Obverse for an 1859. In '59 it was mattied to at least 4-5 other reverses, some quite scarce. It wasn't used by the mint in 1858.

You also can never, ever, have a vine break at 7 that wide on ANY 1858.
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That's a fake, you can tell by the date.
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this is the same seller and same coins I've reported on two separate occasions, this guy doesn't seem to care that he's being taken down
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations.
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations.


No arrows needed.

Just look at the overall 'look' of the obverse.

The entire coin is not well defined and very 'grainy'.

If you want specifics, then look at the 'Jimmy Durante' nose.

I don't want to sound harsh, but if this coin fools anybody, then I would strongly recommend never buying a raw coin.
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I don't want to sound harsh, but if this coin fools anybody, then I would strongly recommend never buying a raw coin.

i hate to say it but China also makes fake slabs with fake coins in them as well
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A photo with arrows would be a great teaching tool for those of us, that have little experience with the coin. I tend to learn best with photo explanations.


I find it best to have two images side-by-side. Google image and compare the two. The first thing that sticks out to me are the 8s, the grainy edges and the center. As a previous poster pointed out, the nose on the queen is a dead giveaway.
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