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Japan
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Jamaica
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If the first coin's real, it could mean some good money, the 1st one is meiji 8 year, 2nd year 36 and last one is year 34, but these coin looks fake to me, it's lack of details and mushy, could you send photo of the edge of the coin, and weight. The following are some info on these coins
Years
7-45 (1874-1912)
Calendar
Japanese - Meiji era
Value
1 Yen (1 JPY)
Metal
Silver (.900)
Weight
26.96 g
Diameter
38.6 mm
Thickness
2.5 mm
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 Japan
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I don't have easy access to scales to measure it with any precision - so it may take a week or so for that. The edge of n1 is below. All three were bought at a flea market in Tokyo - from the same person. The edges of the other coins look the same to me. Thanks.  |
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United States
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I also think they don't quite look right. For example here is a photo of a real Japan Trade dollar. Notice the lettering on the real one is thinner and more precise than the photo you provided. Not flat out calling it fake yet as I am still learning about these for my type set, but doesn't look 100% to me. Interested to see what others say too.  |
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Japan
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Yeah. I've looked at some meiji 8 online - the lettering and some other details should be more precise. Mine are very probably fake. Thank God, I only paid 1000 yen for each. Thanks to everyone anyway.
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United States
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Well that ain't too bad price wise. Have been told many times though that if the price seems way too good, then it probably is not the deal we are looking for. Still cool to have for reference though! I am going to have to buy one of those Trade dollars in the future and most likely I am going to buy one already certified at least genuine. That is the one coin I have left I think I am going to have to pay a ton on... |
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Australia
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In regards to the three Japanese Meiji 1 Yen Dragons submitted by Maxim... I came across several individuals selling this type of coin at the Toji Temple Market in Kyoto, Japan last September. None of the specimens I examined appeared genuine upon close inspection. Weight, surface quality and rim appearance were the main points of rejection.
A small portable electronic scale, a magnification device and a pair of calipers are a cheap investment and a necessity for today's coin collectors. If nothing else, it gives you the appearance of knowing what your about when dealing with "shady" sellers.
Edited by Buffomarinus
11/23/2016 6:50 pm
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New Member
United States
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These coins drive me nuts because there are several (albeit quite rare) varieties/variations for specific years, lots of fakes being produced currently that vary from horrible to pretty darn accurate, and, to compound the issue, during some period of time, I'm not sure when, VERY attractive reproductions were sold legit through souvenir shops to tourists and are quite nice.
The latter though are easy to spot because the weight and size of the coin is intentionally way off. Oversized to a large degree to be precise.
If I was a betting man (oh... I forgot.. I AM a betting man) I would say your coins are not authentic.
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Korea, Republic Of
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Yea if you only paid 1000 Yen these are very probably fakes, but that still isn't a very bad deal for three replicas! I'd probably still buy them at that price.
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Canada
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I've checked Japanese auction sites recently. The average price for 1 Yen Dragon dollar is around 8,000 ~ 12,000 Yen. I don't think you can get a real coin for 1,000 Yen, unless the seller is crazy. :)
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United States
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Welcome, maxim1707 & Buffomarinus. Quote:
A small portable electronic scale, a magnification device and a pair of calipers are a cheap investment and a necessity for today's coin collectors.  I'd also remark that for the coin type in question, fakes must now outnumber the genuine article by a factor of something like 1,000:1.... Colligo ergo sum
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03/03/2017 2:40 pm
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New Member
Australia
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I think weight and diameter are good basic tests that are easily accomplished "on the fly" with these dragon yen coins. In my experience a cast replica, which is derived from an original impression, seems to come up "light" and slightly undersized even when the original silver alloy is used. Of course, a "crook" rim, as in the above case, is always a dead giveaway.
Buffo... "still learning the ropes in this game"
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05/16/2017 08:38 am
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Japan
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These are fakes. I live in Japan and if you could understand the vendor, he's actually telling you they "copy". You can pick these up at flea markets for 800-1000 yen.On the other hand, I've picked up genuine one yen for about 4000yen, but it was cleaned. There is also a coin dealer you attends some antique markets, and you can get a very nice example for about 8000yen. It's probably better value to look for 50Sen Meiji dragon (0.5yen), where you can find genuine EF for 2000, or AU for around 4000
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