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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
There was a thread a little bit ago with odd materials used for coins, this piece is a favorite of mine: Roethenbach 500 Mark Compressed coal dust Rather large piece, with very neat design on the obverse!   I especially like the hand engraved numbering each of these pieces had on the reverse, this piece is from a series of 2499 according to the Menzel reference... Anyone else have a coal dust issue to post? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1391 Posts |
This is a very interesting piece. I've been off and on looking for one since I found out about them. How does it feel in hand? I would think they were pretty brittle feeling.
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Valued Member
United States
263 Posts |
 very nice I've heard of them but have never seen one in person. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
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This is a very interesting piece. I've been off and on looking for one since I found out about them. How does it feel in hand? I would think they were pretty brittle feeling. Not so much a brittle feeling but certainly a different texture... Felt very similar to the texture of the Porcelain Notgeld... One thing I did notice when taking it out it's oversized 2x2 for the first time to photograph, it did have a bit of a coal smell to it... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
Another neat coal dust Notgeld...   The 1,000 Mark issue, which is even more massive at roughly 70mm... I've also done a bit more research on the C. Conradty issues, it appears that some places online state these had mintages of 10,000, but my Menzel books list the 500 Mark at 2,499 and the 1000 Mark at 3500... As these pieces are individually numbered, and I have not seen any examples with higher numbers, I believe that Menzel is correct... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6130 Posts |
Fantastic  I have always wanted one, but have never even seen one for sale online. I had no idea that they were so large, either! I would probably want mine in some sort of slab to protect against breakage or chipping. |
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
367 Posts |
"slab to protect against breakage or chipping"... or ;) throwing into the fire !
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
1358 Posts |
These are neat! Where did you get them? I've been looking for some of these coins for a while, as I think Notgeld is a very interesting currency (and hard to find) as I'm very fond of odd coins (strange shapes, materials, etc).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
I do not come across them too often...
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Valued Member
United States
100 Posts |
Cool! I love how they're individually numbered, sort of like an artist's print.
Were they ever actually used, or did the hyperinflation happen too fast for that?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Very nice. You've had some impressive notgeld lately! Any come from the Geoffrey Bell auction?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Were they ever actually used, or did the hyperinflation happen too fast for that? The firm which issued these particular pieces, C. Conrady, issued 1/4 of their employees wages with these pieces in November of 1922... I would assume that these were actually circulated quite little, as they are quite reactive and fragile, and I would also assume that a very small portion of the numbers that were issued still exist... Quote:
I love how they're individually numbered, sort of like an artist's print. In German, these are referred to as 'Kontrollnummers'. There are a few Notgeld issues with these, including some Municipal issues... Quote:
Very nice. You've had some impressive notgeld lately! Any come from the Geoffrey Bell auction? Thanks Chequer! Most of the pieces I have been offering lately came from a large German collection I purchased this winter... The Notgeld was very impressive, the German Empire pieces perhaps even more so... I did pick up some nice lots in the Bell auction, but no Notgeld... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1757 Posts |
What about the gold decor pieces and iron porcelain pieces? What do you know about these?
John Lorenzo
Numismatist
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
John, for Rothenbach or Notgeld in general?
If on Notgeld in general, might be better to start a new thread
Also, not sure what you mean on Iron Porcelain pieces?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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What is the best reference book for notgeld? (I may be developing an unhealthy interest ... unhealthy to my bank account.)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
Most of the references are in German... I use the Robert Lamb book for the municipal issues (In English, published in 1960's but very easy to use, but badly out of date) For the Private issues, I use the Menzel books (German language, prices rather accurate for the newer edition, not difficult to use) I know many collectors use the Funck catalog (Municipal but updated, in German), but I do not have that... The Lamb book should set you back around $20, if you can find a copy... The Menzel books can be ordered from Germany, I believe I paid around 150 Euro for my copies... Quote:
unhealthy to my bank account Actually, one of the more interesting things with Notgeld is you can build a pretty diverse collection without breaking the bank... There a few hundred pieces you should be able to find in a nice circulated grade for under $10 |
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