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I'm thinking of sending a handful of coins to CCCS for hard slabbing. They are currently in ICCS holders and so I'm looking to cross grade them and get them into hard slabs. I'll be keeping these coins until my days are over, and so market/value wise is not an issue. I just want the protection and display of a hard slab.
Has anyone ever done CCCS grading? Any experience with cross grading from ICCS? How long did it take to get them back? and should I buy the return private insurance if the coins have a value altogether of about $2000?
Thanks for the help!
Paul
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Generally cross-grading involves keeping the coins in the original holder and the new certificate referencing the cert # of that original holder. Since you can't have the original certificate updated to reference the cert # of the new holder. And the general industry practice is supposed to be that when you take a coin out of someone else's holder you send that someone else the original certificate so they know it's no longer with the coin. I don't expect that happens very often in reality though. So all that to say you may want to cut the coins out yourself to keep the original certificates before you send them in. Or at least ask CCCS about it before shipping. If you haven't already found their website here's a link http://www.canadiancoincertificatio...m/index4.php Personally I find the grading quite comparable with ICCS these days. ICCS tends to limit themselves to a standard set of comments though whereas CCCS will put just about anything verifiable you like in the comment. There's been a couple of threads comparing them over the years. If you search they'll come up. I would get the insurance.
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Hi Paulsz..
I've sent in about 200 NCLT coins to CCCS for hard slabbing. The more you send in one batch the less expensive it becomes. Also, if you have a preference, you can ask for the obverse to be on the back side of the slab instead of seeing the queen every time. :) Louis also offers an insurance option when he returns them back to you although I don't remember all the details atm.
I have zero info on the cross grading though.
Forgot to add...his turnaround seems to be fairly quick for small batches. Last batch I sent was 60 or so and I received them back about 2 weeks later.
Edited by trimble 01/20/2016 11:39 pm
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Hi Paul. I have dealt with CCCS of 3 occasions and have had great service each time. I find them very on par as far as grades compared to ICCS go. Turnaround time, which is of course always too long when you are waiting expectantly, is 5-6 weeks in my experience. The upside of CCCS, as many will attest, is the fact that they have a website so no hunting down submission forms from cached versions of 1990's websites or waiting for annual population reports to be printed. Another plus is that CCCS will designate both errors and varieties, whereas ICCS will only designate varieties. Oh, and of course, the hard slabs. ICCS is older than NGC and that brings with certain amount of clout that CCCS just doesn't quite have in international markets, though obviously not an issue if you plan to hold onto your coins. Hope that helps Paul.
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Louie at C.C.C.S is an nice person to deal with. I had questions regarding the process of filling out the item list when sending coins and He got back to me within 48 hours. He in so far as accommodates the coin you send. An example of such is a 2 oz coin I sent to him in capsule. He left it in the capsule and then made a soft cover for it along with the grading information inside. I had a coin graded and asked him to have the reverse showing on the front of the slab. Things like that is what makes dealing with C.C.C.S great and personal as well. It may take some time, but, at least you're not sending it to another country and I think one of the best graders in the country. Don't trust a coin grader that doesn't have a website!
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if all you want is hard slab protection why not slab yourself, using the ICCS cert as the label? cost well under $5 each and your heirs will still have a reference to what the coins really are. 
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Hey Wade, that is pretty slick - great idea!!
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That is a pretty cool idea Wade! I'll probably do that to my ICCS specimen nickel dollars in the near future, but for a few coins I want them in a CCCS slab. I love the way the slab looks
Edited by Paulsz 01/21/2016 11:55 pm
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That is a very nice way to store and protect your key coins.
The slabs are very bulky when compared to ICCS plastic slips. Just got to find a way to buy those slabs in bulk.
Anyone know of a simple solution or contact to buying a lot of those slabs..?
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Edited by Pacificoin 01/22/2016 12:36 pm
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I'm not really questioning ICCS. I do use ICCS when I want to sell my Canadian coins. But for these, I just want them stored in a sealed slab and put them in one of those boxes for slabs
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Wade I like the idea of the slabs also but take a look at your coin the dates don't match.
Cheers, Bill
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Wade posted: Quote: if all you want is hard slab protection why not slab yourself, using the ICCS cert as the label? cost well under $5 each and your heirs will still have a reference to what the coins really are.
Wade, how did a 1964 cent get into an ICCS holder tagged as a 1963?
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Known as a "Sample" slab 
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