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1971-S Ike Dollars And Their Types

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I have two Ike dollars in packaging from the Morgan Mint. I thought that these coins were all to have the same reverse design for all those minted for that year? I do not see a type 1 or a type 2 listing for them in the Red Book but I am looking at both types here in my collection. I heard about a 1971-S Proof, type 1 being grading by NGC and I was hoping that I just found one like it. Thanks for looking!


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So what's the deal here? A proof and a business strike, both from SF? Nice coins.
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Are there to be two different reverse designs used on the SF silver Ike's? Both of these coins are silver, why is a business strike on a silver coin?

NGC certifies rare proof type 1 reverse 1971-S Ike dollar and I would like to know if I own one like it.
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The three different types were on the 1972 plain Ikes. The Two different dies for the 1971-S reverses are different because one is a business strike and the other is a Proof dies.

Where I got 1974 is beyond me?
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I was reading about the "72" designs but these coins are "71" is this a normal?
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Proof and Uncirculated have different reverses, so what you see is normal.

The reason for the 1972 varieties is that the one uses the original reverse, the second uses a proof reverse, and the third an updated reverse.
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The coin with the type 1 design is on what I believe to be a proof coin, in the pictures above. How can one say for sure that the one with the type 1 design is or is not proof? Is there a difference in weight?
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There is an article on NGC's website that is very confusing. I do not know much about Ike's obviously but I do not collect them, just looking for varieties here. If you would like to know where my confusion started, please search google for "NGC Certifies Rare Proof Type 1 Reverse 1971-S Ike dollar" and tell me if you think the article on NGC's website has it wrong some how, very confusing.

So in summary and to confirm, All 1971 proofs were struck with type 2 (high relief) reverse hub and uncirculated coins were struck using the type 1 (low relief) rev hubs.
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Yes, that is the norm. However, never say never. They made a mistake in 1972, no reason why it could not have happened in any other year. That is is why it is a good idea for variety hunters to look at everything, not just for the things "on the list."
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Ya that article shows a type 1 but pictures a type two, very confusing. I research allot before posting. Thanks for the help!
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If I remember correctly the hub for business strikes has a slightly different design than the hub for proof strikes. the coins the OP has appear to be a proof and a business strike quality piece so they should have different designs.

In the case of the 1972's a die hubbed with a proof hub was used to make 1972 business strikes. This happens some times. That is how the 1998, 99, and 200 WAM cents came about and the 1998 S and 99 S CAM proof cents. A die was used that was hubbed by the hub for the other type.
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Ya I found a "99" WAM a few years back while roll searching and everyone here helped me celebrate the find, came back slabbed at MS63.
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