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I know I've been posting a lot a questions folks; just started your forum two days ago. I've always collected odd coins here or there just to have and such, but until recently after watching and reading about what you all have I've been very intrigued and curious. One item I do have is a 1956-D, was nice and copper brown like your average aged penny. After reading on "The Lincoln Cent Resource", I was reading the controversial. One was about the 1956-D/S. SO I rechecked my coin. Thought I saw something there are maybe just wishful seeing. Now don't yell..... I got the Brasso out; cleaned it, and low & behold, there is an "S" standing out. I would put pics, but until I can find a really good macro type software to blow it up w/o distortion.......no use. 1. Has anyone come across one? 2. Can I get it graded, as it is a controversial? Here's the pics, though you don't really see much with out a magnifying lens anyway. The only thing this proves, is that I have a 1956-D. I'm telling you though, it's there. If you can someow see it...... it's actually just right of the "D". Thanks Eric   Updates......caught it.... ;-) Used the magnifying lens. Look to te right of the "D". About one finger nail breadth on the pic.     Edited by coffeegod
02/05/2008 01:45 am
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I don't think anyone will yell too much at you. Brasso's not the best thing to use, but I think most of us have tried to clean a coin or two and found out we used the wrong thing. We live and learn.
If you could post some pics it would be really helpfull in giving you some feedback.
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The coin looks pretty good from what I can see. I know that Brasso can leave damage behind that they will pick up on if it's graded. Brasso from what I have heard,(I've never used it) is an acid based product which can pit/corrode the surface. I don't know if it would be worth sending to a grader or not. I haven't had too much experience with pennies, I'm sure someone who knows more will come along soon.
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It kind of looks like damage to me.  Nice pix. Edited by Nelrak
02/05/2008 01:29 am
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I still can't make it out. The last pic is good but there's too much shadow.
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My resources say the "S" would be west/northwest of the "D" under/near the 1 and 9 of the date.
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I've read about the resources your talking about and have heard the same...... So what do I have? There's an odvious "S" in place. Or is it a new spoof that hasn't been found?
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Never use Brasso on coin I went thur 3 brass Dress Greens belt buckles in my 20yr it put holes in them and it has a grit in and will destroy your coins  I spent most of my time in the field training |
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Brasso kills coins - period. ANY coin is rendered worthless by Brasso.
This coin would not be certified by any grading company because it is very harshly cleaned.
I don't believe the anomaly on this coin to be anything different from a fingerprint, stain, or other happen chance that simply looks like the shape of an S. It doesn't appear to be in relief, and is a different color from the surrounding area.
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The S is a stain of some type plus that S is to large to be from a clash or what ever u think it is
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I'm not asking for criticism for something that I needed to verify. I am a very, very new in depth collector.
1. As to the Brasso, I used A LITTLE on a q-tip; gently, which was what I read on THIS forum.
*** I used it to bring out what I suspected.***
2. What I think it is........ I think it's an "S". Whether it is or not....... I don't know. This is why it's called a controversal coin.
3. As for grading........ I've heard more feed back saying that collectors have more or less had to do the same type of or exact thing to bring out definition, which in turn WERE graded by ALL of the grading services.
***So.... I did do my homework, before I posted this controversal subject. I have no regrets.
Eric
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As to the Brasso, I used A LITTLE on a q-tip; gently, which was what I read on THIS forum You must have read wrong as no one on this forum advocates using Brasso to destructively clean a coin. Quote:
I've heard more feed back saying that collectors have more or less had to do the same type of or exact thing to bring out definition, which in turn WERE graded by ALL of the grading services No legitimate TPG will grade a copper coin that has been cleaned with Brasso. ANACS will slab it but it will also be listed as harshly cleaned. Are you perhaps confusing Brasso with acetone? Acetone=  Brasso=  |
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coffeegod - I don't think anybody was trying to insult you. They are just trying to help you not ruin your coins. I am also very new to collecting (just started in mid-December). I've read a LOT in the past month or so and I've yet to see a single post from one of the hardcore collectors recommending the use of Brasso. In fact, I don't believe I've even seen a post by a casual collector recommending Brasso. I've only read horror stories about it. What I've consistently read is that cleaning is bad, PERIOD. I've also read that, if it's absolutely necessary to clean a coin, harse cleaners like Brasso should be avoided. Just a couple of days ago, the resident expert here made the following post: Quote:
acetone is a bad solution for coins. period. I see people use it time and time again, and it leaves a definite tell-tale sign behind, especially on copper, and it doesn't work well on any other metal.
Xylene only works well with copper.
Olive oil rots. Not good for coins. Use mineral oil instead, but expect a soak time of a month or more.
Brasso, acids, coin cleaner, jewelry cleaner - all horrible to coins.
Cooking cents with baking soda works well as long as you're not using a cast aluminum pot. That turns them black. Use porcelain coated steel instead.
Best single coin solution for cleaning off dirt...Goo-gone, available at most stores.
Rubbing or wiping a dirty coin will scratch it. Whatever you do, do it with care, don't use abrasives, and don't wipe a coin that has dirt on it.
Edited by mahgobbi
02/05/2008 11:56 am
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I really do appreciate the cleaning feedback. Though the real controversy isn't about cleaning, but........what is on my coin.
*I cleaned it with a dry Q-tip before I took a picture of it.
*I've looked at it at every angle.
*I'm a nurse, and am going to take it to work and look at it as well as picture it under a microscope.
*I also have a friend who's taking physics & has access to a spectrograph........
I want to rule out every possible scenerio first before I actually have it graded.
Most of you have seen a lot of actual and picture anomolies of coins.........anything is possible.
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As one relatively inexperienced with Lincolns, I find that mark interesting...it does resemble an "S". And, if it were in the correct position, that might suggest something too. Live and learn about Brasso!  At this point, I would do anything I can to get traces of that chemical off the coin or more damage will result. Gently flush it clean with distilled water. |
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Back in 1956 the MM D was punched too low and then corrected. The lower D was effaced and faint but complete from the upper D MM. During removal and the polishing out of the lower D MM may have created what you have indicated as an S MM. It may just be the polishing out of the D causing a rippling swerve from east of the D and continuing east. Look for faint lower D By mint Mark.
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