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PCGS Crossover - Premium Charge?

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Question - It looks like they have $10 Crossover special at PCGS during Long Beach Show. Why does PCGS charge 1% guarantee premium charge if the coin does cross over? Hopefully answer is not because they can.
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If your coin crosses, they will charge the standard crossover rate plus 1% of the value of the coin. If the coin does not cross, you pay $10. The 1% is simply a way for PCGS to make money, but your coin will most likely go up in value.
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Yeah, they know you are going for a PCGS slab for a rea$on. So with what Slider23 said.
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Very reasonable rate in my opinion. Most cross overs will fetch a lot more than a additional percent.
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Not sure how much my Peace dollars will go up by with PCGS holder vs existing NGC holders... I'm just trying to consolidate them into one registry.
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Yes, that's a bit different. In that case you have a point.
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You may want to consider using the NGC registry as NGC takes both PCGS and NGC for USA coins.
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I am a bit "Iffy" with the percentage charges.
It should be a flat rate because a percentage rate means that PCGS has a vested interest in giving a coin a higher grade.
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Quote:
It should be a flat rate because a percentage rate means that PCGS has a vested interest in giving a coin a higher grade.


Well, that's what I was actually hoping for when I submitted a hefty premium fee with my last crossover attempt to PCGS, but they didn't go for it. They probably already have lots of money, so my theory didn't hold up.
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Maybe they didn't take the bait this time Ed .
Impartiality is why we trust the grades assigned by a TPG and this percentage rate charge has the potential to erode that.
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They did send me a nice consolation prize though...a nice blue PCGS 20 coin holder box
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Getting coins to cross at PCGS is not easy as they only cross about 40%.
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I was at Long Beach and decided to attempt a cross for one coin. It is an 1814 Classic large cent currently in a blue ANACS holder at MS-60. I already attempted a cross at NGC and they refused to cross it at MS-60. They noted "too much wear" on the submission form. This time I specified a minimum AU-58 grade.

The actual cost is a bit higher than was mentioned. There is a $10 service fee plus a return shipping charge of $20 or more depending on value of the coin. Then, if the coin does cross they charge you $125 plus 1% of the value of the coin, based on the PCGS price guide. In my case it would be worth it. I'll report on how it turns out.
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