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Fantasy Coins? 1798 Trade Dollar 1902 Silver Eagle

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Recently received 2 "fantasy coins" in a collection I just purchased. A 1798 Trade dollar and a 1902 silver eagle. Is there a market for these? What's the average price, and are they even legal to sell?

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Both are fakes. Not fantasy pieces
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although probably intended to be Counterfeits, the dates cannot be found on real examples so I would say fantasy is the correct technical category for them...although I think stamping them "COPY" is still a good idea..wait for better help.
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I would have to see the back but I don't know how it would not be considered just fantasy. If it was closer to the correct years maybe counterfeit but you talking about over 80 years. As long as the seller are selling it with no intent to deceive and as just a fantasy coin I think it would be ok. Now if the reverse says .90 or.999 fine silver and isn't I would say it leans towards counterfeiting.

If you struck a Lincoln Cent with the date 1863 would that he considered a counterfeit? Or would it be obvious it was a fantasy coin.
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Let's be honest here, folks. This doesn't even DESERVE the title counterfeit. Of fakes. They are just plain junk.
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They are worth about 10¢ each.
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I would agree it would be a pass at a dealers $1 junk box. Maybe .25 idk. The eagle looks so mushy
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are they even legal to sell?

Yes. Since they are not imitating real coins, they are not technically fake.
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Awesome, thanks for the info. I put them as a 24hour auction ending tonight. I made it very clear in the description that they are not real coins. I just want to get rid of them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantasy-Coi...AOSwzhVWs~y2

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Silver? Rounds

I'm 96% sure they're not silver.
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That can be bad :/ I take a magnet to them pronto
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Yes. If they're not silver, don't imply that they might be. That's probably the only reason it's already over $9.
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What you will do is message the winner and tell them you made a terrible mistake and you don't think they are actually silver and ask them if they would want to cancel the deal. They will most likely agree and refund their money if they already paid. After that sell them as tokens of base metal. Don't include the world silver in the title or description. Anything else and you could be slammed with a bad review and defective product case and come out of the deal giving them away and gaining a bad reputation. If you test it for silver and make sure it's not plated it one thing. However as other noted I'm 99% it's not even plated.
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If anyone want to play a perverse game, want to guess how much they will get up to? I'm assuming there will be enough idiots to get it up to $25 and the shipping, Its like a super sad train wreck happening in slow motion.

When you tell them that it's prob not silver maybe send them a link to this thread in it. So that they know you didn't have bad intentions.
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Sounds like a good idea.
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Sold for $11 hope he does the right thing and atleast talks to the guy
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