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Are All Those Chinese Counterfeits Worth Nothing At All?

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 Posted 02/18/2016  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting to see those same lips. Maybe our coins came from the same "artist"?
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Oddly enough I happen to stumble upon this topic and sure enough, I have the same "Judge Judy" 50 PENOE and I feature it as my most cartoonish in the lot. I'm thinking at least a couple members here collect as I do.



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 Posted 02/18/2016  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Penoe collectors unite!
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 Posted 02/18/2016  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some of these are so good and others are so bad.
Some are so good it's really hard to tell while others are so sloppy they reveal themselves at a glance.
I decided to document those that I've found with measures and pictures so others can see what to look for.
Someday I'll figure out a way to share all that info and photographs. As they are now, they exist in binder form and I'm winding up Taels, then going on to Chinese Republic Dollars and then Dragon Dollars.
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 Posted 02/18/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no reason why people should even spend a single cent on it. The cost of producing one of such counterfeit is less than 20 cents give and take. Give it a dollar and you are being too generous.
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Albert Yes there are some of us who do collect things like you do. I have been collecting counterfeits since 1960 - that is 56 years now. In my own collection I have over 10,000 examples of counterfeits, replicas, forgeries, alterations and frauds of various types.

spence What do you mean by penoe? Do the letters mean something?

gxseries The cost of 10 to 20 cents each is a bulk production figure. Securing just one example of each type can be hard to do for less than $1. I buy any that I believe might expand my understanding of how they were made. I will pay more for emerging technologies to understand what is going on. This of course applies only to recently made forgeries. If I spot a forgery in an NGC holder I will go as high as $100 because that is the finders fee for returning an encapsulated forgery.
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He's talking about this PENOE as well as the Elizabeth U:


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If we are ever invaded by Chinese Hordes, these will be of the most use after melting down and casting into bullets to shoot at them with, otherwise, no value.
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