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Looking through older threads with an appropriate title that I might recycle, nothing referring to the various varieties in general. However judging by the number of inquires relating to the 3 different design types -- full, half or none -- inside the "0" of the date in the 1950 50c suggests it's one of the more popular George VI dates. That the design inside the "0" eventually becomes removed through resurfacing makes sense, similar to the short waterlines or arnprior varieties of the silver dollars, or the "no design" of the 1952 50c. Other possible varieties of 1950: Obverse:  Resurfacing (fading out of the profile lines of George VI at certain points) clash marks including in or on the King's ear, plus various die cracks Reverse: the no design in the "0" but either one or three blips to the right. doubling of the right line of the Unicorn's pennant. numerous die cracks, die chip to the right of Unicorn's flag. The digits 1950 are all in a fixed position, so unlike other years, there are no wide or narrow dates. Once again, everybody please feel free to post your samples along with me. I haven't taken a closer look quite yet to see what I have. Prior to discovering the 2014 Charlton Special Section on George VI, my knowledge of varieties ended just with the 3 design types. |
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hello again i have the attached listed as a narrow date may I ask if you would agree ? also would it benefit with some acetone tia i have one other to try and photograph   |
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Hi torgemco. Indeed, I think that 50c is aching for a bath. 1950, there's no wide or narrow dates, the 4 digits are in a fixed position. But look inside the zero...anything there? From what I can tell without a closeup it appears you have what's referred to as the "no design" 1950 variety.
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A diagnostic for the market accepted So called clear 0 in date is a die break through the lower part of the 0 , angling right to left through the lower part of the digit, towards the rim .Otherwise DO NOT pay a premium.
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excellent thank you I had it as 1950 n.d. thinking narrow date i did not see a die crack though(?) the one attached has a Design(?)   pics not the best |
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I believe this is an example of the coin that pacificoin is referring to with the die crack present. Cheers, Bill  |
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Hound dog that is indeed the diagnostic die break I was describing.
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Wow, perfect example, Bill and yes, just as you described Pacifcoin! Awesome, indeed it only has the 1 blimp as well! Looking at pginrh's research notes again, it's mentioned there are two varieties of "no design": - 1 blip right of "0", the die crack (above) - 3 blips right of "0" Taking a closer look at my collection, what I thought by the eye was "no design, 3 blip" under magnification is instead "half design". Nothing else worthy of mention, other than the two different fills. Looking at other photos, it seems the difference between the half and full design variety is in the clarity of the inner blips, particularly those beneath the upper one inside that "0". Half design in "0" (hmmm, well this sample has a heavier top line than is common in half design, but the lower three are mere specs)  Full design in "0"  Anyone else, please feel welcome to add along! Edited by wildflowerAB
02/17/2016 1:33 pm
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WildflowerAB, I'm not positive but I think the last two shown are both with what would be called full design in "O". The one below is one that I believe could be considered half design. Note the difference in the amount of design between the "5" & "0" and along the top of Canada also. These elements are all the result of excessive die polishing. The design inside the "0" will have a smoother or washed out look with no sharp edges or large lumps. Cheers, Bill   |
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Yes indeed, thanks for the pic Bill. You're right, both are full, too much design to be half.
Back to the missing variety search. Oh well lol!
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1950 50c and its three types of what's in or not inside the "0" is a fairly popular variety. Unlike some of the lesser known 50 c varieties, I notice many "0"s on ebay are designated by type. The obverse resurfacing of some of the die that began in 1950 is interesting as well. By comparison, King Geo's effigy also takes on a somewhat glossy and smooth appearance that, well it just looks a bit different. But some of the most noticeable characteristics are - - the lips are slightly open. - the profile area where the top of the neck connects to under the neck has lost its definition. - the profile area at the bridge of the nose is also washed out (of coincidence, I recall this is a marker of Vicky 50c counterfeits) This is an example but unfortunately the photo doesn't illustrate it as well as I hoped.  |
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Anybody with 1950 examples, once again feel free to add them here. And Tee, I've been meaning to thank you for your additions to the other variety threads.  |
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No problem, learning a lot about the 50 cent varieties even if it identifies that I don't have them (lol). I'm at the lake so can't check my 1950 out until tomorrow. Keep the 50 cent pieces coming.
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Gosh, thanks Tee.  Yes, there's a few more years yet. If you or anyone might wonder why I might be doing this, this is my way of giving back. When I first began sorting through a collection given to me by my father after sitting unlooked at for 25 years or so in the bottom of a closet, I found various reference threads on this forum to be extremely helpful. Actually it was the reading here and helpful comments that was responsible for getting me bitten by the coin collecting bug. |
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Edited by M_d_in_guy
02/27/2017 1:56 pm
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I picked one up at a flea market on the weekend. Didn't have my loupe and could swear it was the ND variety. Paid 10.50 for it which I wouldn't do otherwise on the off chance that I was right.
I was wrong. Standard design in the O, and to make things worse, looks like it has been cleaned. OH well. You can never have too many KGVI 50's as far as I'm concerned.
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