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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know if you guys will move this or not, but I just watched Sunday night Dateline on NBC. Horrible and tragic tale of coin collector, killed along with his wife, by a trusting work colleague of some 15 years. How safe can you be, I'm scared to death, not to mention my wife and family. I'm not only diligent, but overly cautious of my surroundings, but no one could of seen this one coming.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I didn't see this one but if and when people are robbed for coins, stamps, guns, knives or any collection, it is due to advertising what you have. People that brag, show off, discuss anything of value that they have is only asking for trouble. It is unfortunate but that is possibly one of the biggest reasons those crimes exist. AND it may not be the people you tell or show, just might be the people they tell. Or the people that tell people that tell people. The way people work is you show someone a set of coins worth a hundred dollars and they tell someone of your thousand dollar collection that tells someone of your hundreds of thousands in coins. People just don't like undersized stories so they keep adding and adding and adding until all sounds big enough to even tell.
The best thing to due with coins is not tell anyone. AND that includes relatives.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1211 Posts |
FEAR! Be afraid of everything...
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Pillar of the Community
1153 Posts |
the world is scary. be safe and be smart
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1309 Posts |
The man had guns in every room, but he was just caught off guard by someone he knew well and trusted, obviously nothing but pure evil. May he rot in heck. It didn't say exactly what or how much he stole, but he sold around $18,000 in silver bullion to a local coin collector, and took two lives. The man apparently had a gambling problem, for he was earning six figures. I'm sure you can download the episode.
Edited by thecoinguy1964
02/22/2016 4:30 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I saw the show. Creepy. The murderer was 'friends' with the couple for 15 years and the murderer was also supposed to be a collector.
Good police work on this case. They followed him for three months to get a DNA sample.
But that couples house was like a museum! They collected a lot more than just coins and bullion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1450 Posts |
Now I am loading my 870 Remington and my Glock as we speak. Don't have a safe in the house and I don't tell others about my coins except my brother. I am not so sure of him now.
I live in Florida where shooting people is a sport. We have so many robberies and gun crimes here I have five motion detectors around my house and expensive alarm and camera system. I don't care about stuff just my blood. I got through Vietnam OK and I don't want to be killed over a coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Very sad.
His guns were no defence at all.
The best way to use a gun for protection is to keep one near your pillow and acquire the right reaction training to use it properly, and hope not to make a tragic mistake, when you think you may be forced to use it. My brother did this type of training every six months with his gun club.
A problem may be that no one takes it without your knowledge, when it is left unattended. He had no children to accidently fool with his guns.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 Coin collecting was supposed to be fun. No fun in getting killed over it. The guy should be executed the way they do it in North Korea . |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
The main problem remains, and cannot be undone.
The coin collector is dead, and his family mourns.
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This is a very interesting topic. And something I can say I have definitely thought of. You cant trust anyone, I have learned that myself. Honestly, for this reason I was even hesitant to join this forum. Let alone post pictures. I figure someone could hack your IP address and get your real address and BOOM you're HIT. It really is sad that you have to live life this way and that there are bad people in this world, it sucks, but it is what it is. Nothing you can do but protect yourself. And its sad that sometimes you even have to protect and be cautious of family members, they are the last people you would want to worry about. I have been talking to wife about this lately, that I'm at the point where we need a better safe. I have my notes and coins in a safe.. One that would be near impossible to open, but very easy to just pick up and walk away. We need a large safe that has a dial and bolts to the floor.
Uggh, thinking about this now makes me sick it really does suck. It sucks that you have to live this way and protect from thieves, murderers and thoughtless empty human beings. But that brings up another point. To some people this may not matter but to me it does.. I mean I collect because I love the history and the story and common rarity that comes with collecting coins and bank notes, and I want to keep them in MY family and have hopes that family will continue to pass them on, never selling. But if you have to be secretive and quiet where is the fun in that? I would love to show people that come over for a family reunion or a child's birthday party and if the topic/discussion comes up show my collection. Let people see and personally enjoy the smiles and OOOH's and AAAAH's that come about it. That's when you can sit back and enjoy that people are enjoying the collection you put together and the fact that you have and they are holding old pieces of their countries history. But when that is risky and becomes dangerous and you have such a vast amount of pcs. that if it was stolen it would be devastating or even worse killed, then what is the point.. Is it even worth it?
I guess it is worth it. If I have to keep my collection to me, myself, and I then so be it. And maybe if you feel the urge to show somebody an interesting piece of history maybe just show one or two pieces either a coin or a bank note, you don't have to say "hey, I have more, a hundred thousand worth"..
And what's the difference between a coin collection or a collection of old rare Coca-Cola Tins on the wall, or a Classic Model A worth 100 grand sitting in the garage.. Not much really..
Edited by CollectorKing
02/23/2016 11:52 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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@ CollectorKing , well said . I feel the same way, why do I have to worry about who comes over my house or who see's some of my collection laying around when I'm working on it. the joy and fun turns to paranoia & frustration .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well it is clear what everyone should do
Never mention or talk about coins to anyone. (Who needs new collectors anyway.)
This was done by someone that was trusted, so develop a strong case of paranoia, never develop any friends, cut yourself off from all family.
Quit you job since you obviously won't be able to trust any of your co-workers or deal with the public. (See the paranoia we developed a moment ago.)
Go live like a hermit and dress and act like a street bum so no one will ever think you have anything. Make sure you lash out and anyone that tries to get close to you, that should keep everyone away
Stay off-line lest anyone be able to track you down.
Never buy anything that has to be shipped to you, even a P O Box isn't safe enough.
Never buy anything in person. If you do someone will see you and know that you have something.
Now you can enjoy your collection in peace and safety. (sarc)
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 Has this what collecting coins come down to . just be a recluse and all will be well. But I want to be a normal person ! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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But I want to be a normal person ! You are a coin collector, you will never be "normal"!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
Scary stuff for sure. However in my city I see people news reports of people being robbed on a daily basis for no other reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It doesn't take valuable items to make you a target, it is sad how many murders occur over relatively small amounts of money (less than $100). Long term, planned out plots, like the one described here, seem to be the exception rather than the rule. Here is a link to a news article about the crime mentioned in the opening post. Springfield murder case to be featured on NBC's Dateline http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...or/80563020/ |
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