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Received this from a friend. Neither of us have had any luck at all even coming close to id. Seems Middle Eastern? Any help is appreciated



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can we see a picture of the other side? and if you crop away the blank surrounding, the coin will show larger.


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 Posted 03/03/2016  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks Ottoman Empire. If there is a dot between the second and third characters on the bottom it would be AH 1203 for Selim III. If the diameter is 10mm it could be "Turkey" Ache KM 483.
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First of all, thank you for your responses. I'm having problems uploading a shot of the opposite side... The diameter is 16mm, maybe just a bit between 16 and 17mm one a machinist rule.
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 Posted 03/03/2016  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rather looks more like a belly dancers token
Your has 1203? date regnal year 1
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A token from a belly dancer costume was my initial though too. Is it the flan thin enough that it is the same inscription on the obv and rev?
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The hole would tell me that it is exactly a belly dancers token , I used to also have one. However I'm not an expert on this.
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This is the opposite side

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It would help to have the same alignment and coloration for your pics as then the text could be more easily compared, but it looks to me like the obv and rev are the same, just one side is incuse and the other is bas-relief. I'm almost positive that it is a belly-dancer token.
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The reverse seems to be the mirros of the obverse.
I have no doubts it is a belly dancers'
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 Posted 03/03/2016  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcnnr987 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance that it's genuinely from the 1789+ time frame?
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...gold possibly?
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Chances: zero.
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"Belly dancer tokens" - more properly called jewellery replicas, though the popular name does help envisage how they were worn - are almost always not made of gold. If an Ottoman woman could afford genuine gold, she'd have used genuine gold coins.

Dating it is impossible; they've been making things like this since the coins they were copied from were in common use, in the mid-1800s (I assume it's trying to imitate one of those gold coins with the "1223/28" date, just doing a very sloppy job of it). You can still go to Turkey today and buy things just like this in bulk from the Grand Bazaar.
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Thanks for your help everyone.
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That is still a cool coin
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