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New Member
United States
48 Posts |
I'm sure this is a topic that's been discussed on here already, though I haven't found it yet.
I wonder, as we continually move to a cashless society, along with collectors that are getting older everyday-and I would "assume" a decline in younger collectors, as well as the us mint increasing mintages -I would think with some products --what will be the state of coin collecting in say 10, 15, or 20 years?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5241 Posts |
Interesting question!
We had this discussion at our coins club last month. Some saw it spiralling downwards, others thought that it would always be strong.
I see a slow decline over time. There will always be collectors of high quality older stuff, but as we become cashless, it will become something more exotic, rather than part of your day to day life.
On the other hand, it has never been so easy to get material.
The 20 year olds today who are still collecting may have everything they could possibly want at bargain prices.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
This is a scary subject.
More so, I think, if your sitting on a large collection.
I do see some younger collectors ...
But I also see coin collecting not competing very well with video games.
I do think silver and gold will always have value. And hope that the generations to come will continue to stack silver and gold. And in doing that develop a interest in collecting coins.
Where some of us older collectors, complain about all the different coins and coin designs that come out each year, maybe those new designs will help bring new collectors into the hobby.
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New Member
United States
33 Posts |
I collect Chinese coins/paper, the market will always be strong. 1 billion people, and it keeps growing.
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Valued Member
United States
311 Posts |
To be honest I don't think we will ever go away from a physical currency and even if we did, I believe that it would make our collections that more valuable. For instance, a Twenty Cent Piece is no longer legal tender but it is still a valuable find and part of our collections. As to the younger generation and not collecting... When I was a teen or younger, none of my peers collected coins other than in their piggy banks, but now judging by a lot of profiles here, my peers have started coin collections now that they are older, have more disposable income, and have been influenced at some point in their lives by a coin collector... Coin collecting has been around since the Romans and before and it will be around for a very long time...
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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An interesting comparison could be made with stamp collecting. 40 or 50 years ago, postage stamps were in daily use and there was a commercial need for countries to produce large numbers of stamps of different designs. Most countries' postal administrations had a fairly modest output of commemorative stamps, say 4 or 5 sets per year, and these stamps were commonly seen in genuine postal use. A few countries, like Bhutan, Equatorial Guinea, Grenada, San Marino and various Arab states flouted this convention and issued hundreds of different stamps every year, but serious collectors generally ignored these countries and didn't take them seriously.
Today the actual need for postage stamps has declined dramatically. An average person might need one or two in a week. In most countries, various forms of stamped labels have reduced the need for high value parcel stamps. Yet far more different stamps are being issued than ever before, and at far higher prices. The hobby does seem to be surviving, but it's changing: few collectors now try to collect all stamps from their country. Thematic collecting, which was previously rather looked down on by serious collectors, is now taken very seriously. And classic old stamps continue to increase in value, while modern issues are often hard to re-sell even for face value.
One problem - already mentioned with GR58 in relation to video games - is that the variety of things for youngsters to do has increased dramatically, and the cost of new technology has come down. Back in the early 1970s the British Post Office issued four or five commemorative sets of stamps a year, and I could buy two sets of stamps for the cost of a 45 rpm pop single. Today there are about ten or twelve sets a year, and I could download several .mp3 pop singles for the cost of one set!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2624 Posts |
I think if we become cashless it will go the same way as stamp collecting... a massive decline in popularity and a crash in prices as it becomes largely irrelevant.
On the positive side I can't see any population tollerating going cashless anytime soon...to do so would be a total surrender.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
As the usage of plastic for money increases, so does the need for coins. Even now I seldom use cash. My Son has a business and hardly ever uses cash since the use of credit and debit cards gets him a great paper trail of what is spent. I forsee in the near future coins and paper currency fading away. And since coin collecting is dependent on availability, this hobby is sort of at a close end.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3234 Posts |
My father used to be a (vest pocket) stamp dealer. He told me once...."Do you know the average age of a stamp collector? Deceased."
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
This subject constantly comes up, not just occasionally. In 1965 as I sat in the coin shop looking through the weeks junk coins, the old timers were constantly complaining of no new blood and coin collecting was in it's final decline. In the 1977 when I went to the shows, I heard the same comments. If you looked around the room you could see plenty of people under 30 and more than one dad with there son and/or daughters along. In 1985 when TPG's began to be a recognized force you could not talk about coins without someone seeing the introduction of TPG's as the last step before "real" collectors would exit the doors in droves. In 1989 when TPG's had artificially forced the price of coins into the stratosphere (and also because many major players had hoarded such areas as high grade commemoratives) the market suddenly crashed when those hoarders started dumping them, all at once. Every show, every conversation, every article all predicted that this was the end of coin collecting. I could go on and on an on. The bottom line to me is pretty simple. If you are giving reasons why coin collecting is now in it's last days you can be proud of being included in a long line of incorrect predictions. Right here on CCF a poll that was taken as to member ages had the 30 year old range as the HIGHEST percentage. If coin collecting is dead, please PM me with your list for sale, and I'll happily offer you cheap prices so you don't have to worry about the crash that's coming. Oh...you don't want to sell for cheap prices? Neither is anyone else. If coin collecting is dying, why do prices continue to rise on GOOD quality coins? I'm not talking about common garbage, but about decent material. Why can't I steal it on ebay if collecting is dead? Get real, people. Coin collecting is stronger RIGHT NOW than it has ever been EVER.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
Agreed stamps are basically a dying hobby.....coins will have a longer lifespan in my opinion, I didn't start collecting til right before I turned 25....im 28 now so for 3 years I have been doing this. I started with doing bullion first from my buddy introducing me to it, but I quickly diversified into numismatics because I am a history teacher and love the history behind coins and how they were made etc. I don't sell stuff from my collection unless I have duplicates...I am hoping to hold onto my collection for many years as both a long term investment and for something to pass on to my potential future children or my nephew.... In my opinion coin collecting has at least a few hundred more years left unless there is an apocalypse. Unlike stamps which maybe has a few decades at most.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1316 Posts |
I feel that the short and medium term, collecting will be rather stable. In the long term, if the general interest in history continues to decline, the values of our collections will go down with it. I find so few youth who care about the past; literally couldn't even tell me where their ancestors are from and are confused why I'd bother asking with something so unimportantly trivial.
Edited by Collects82 03/11/2016 09:39 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Comic collecting is dead because their are no longer comic racks in every store of any description. Please sell me your Amazing Fantasy #15.
Big Little Book collecting is dead because no one under the age of 40 has ever seen one in a store. Please sell me your Flash Gordon BLB's.
Toy collecting is dead because the youth of today don't have any interest in old stuff. Please sell me your 1977 Star Wars Action Figures.
Young people don't have any idea who Roy Rodgers was, so the collecting of that personage is sure to be dead already. Please sell me your Roy Rodgers chalk ware lamp.
No one does any kinds of games any longer and all the kids do is play video games. No other games have any chance of lasting. Please sell me your Black Lotus MTG game card.
Coin collecting has no chance as kids don't care about history. okay...
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Moderator
 United States
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I moved this to the Main forum for a wider audience. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1118 Posts |
Hey moxking, that was a great write up but as a 21 year old I would like to expand on that a little bit. People in my age do not collect per sea, they "deal".
You would think between Pawn Stars,Pawn Stars UK, American/Canadian/Australian Pickers, Thrift Hunters, Epic Collections, etc. etc. people would be exposed to the wonderful word of material culture and historic preservation but sadly, no.
They see $$$. "Oh wow that is old, let's sell it to a collector" is the mind set. I know children my age buying up new Star Wars memorabillia so they can retire. Gene Audry is seen as a way to make money. I can name a 100 teenage girls placing pictures and quotes of Marilyn Monroe on there social media accounts yet not one of them could name a movie she was in, her relationships with DimAgio or the Kenedies etc. .
Yes people my age "collect" but not for the joy of history or putting together a personal museum. Someday the "treasure assets" boom will bust and maybe true collectors will emerge.
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Valued Member
Germany
303 Posts |
I think that the number of collectors is dramatically declining. A couple of months ago, I have been to a local coin club meeting in Berlin. After some minutes an elderly man approached me (in my mid-20s) and asked if I was lost.
According to the tool Google Trends, in February 2016 the search volume for the term 'coin collecting' was only 9 % of the volume for the same term as in January 2004. Of course, this might be explained by the fact that more and more people get online and look for other stuff but it could as well serve as an indicator for the decline of this beautiful hobby.
Best
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