At this point it makes sense to list any CCC as paktong GS if dated before 1830. I think we go into some detail in our book that the ANS presented to us during the book review. We do have definitive people applying for patents in 1835 in the U.K. and 1830 is estimated on when the Germans got a hold of this paktong by smuggling it out of China. When China started paktong I never went that far back but should read this reference Gurney came up with in this thread.
In my new book I have to check if I have any pre-1830 issues as its in the final TWEEK the next two months prior to its publishing at
Amazon Books. If I spot any I may CHANGE the alloy from GS to early Paktong to proceed in the right direction. I guess the way we figure it now-a-days when its in the U.K. it won't be long before its in the U.S. which by all counts was no later than 1837.
Most U.S. collectors are aware = The Feuchtwanger Cent which was a "German silver" private token coin.
Lewis Feuchtwanger (born in Fürth, Bavaria on January 11, 1805) received a doctorate at the University of Jena and then moved to New York City. He was primarily a mineralogist, metallurgist, and chemist, but also worked as a physician and was a member of a number of learned societies. He wrote four books on mineralogy and chemicals.
In 1837, to alleviate the need for small change during the Hard Times, Feuchtwanger created tokens made of argentan (commonly known as German Silver), an alloy made of copper, nickel, zinc, tin and trace metals. It was considerably cheaper to produce than the extraction of copper for the government minted half-cents and cents.
The Hard Times, an especially rough period of economic recession following the dissolution of the Second Bank of the United States, was known for massive hoarding of small change. Much of the small change circulating at this time (roughly 1837-1844) was composed of clunky copper half-cents and cents privately produced or various cut and whole silver coins of foreign origin. In fact, it would not be until 1857, that Congress would enact into law that legal currency be coin of United States Mint origin.
In 1837, Feuchtwanger presented his one cent coins to Congress for approval as legal coinage and a cheaper substitute for copper. This was probably the first attempt to circulate "nickel" coinage in the United States. Congress denied his request, but Feuchtwanger persisted in his production and circulation. Laws banning private coinage were not passed until 1864. Between 1837 and 1844 thousands of Feuchtwanger cents came out of his New York City pharmacy. To the discerning collector over a dozen different die casts have been identified, affecting the relative rarity of each specimen found.
Aside from one cent tokens, in 1864 Feuchtwanger also produced
Three Cent tokens which are considered extremely rare, as few specimens have survived. Feuchtwanger was also noted for producing stamp-like casts featuring his common theme of a pouncing eagle attacking a snake.
Feuchtwanger died in New York City on June 25, 1876.
Realeswatcher to be honest I never considered it a high concern since CCCs are always backdated to SOME degree. But 1835-1771 = 64 years is a long period for a CCC backdating event. But again we are guessing to a degree until we developed alloy standards for U.K. GS and this earlier China paktong.
JPL
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