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1748 Spanish Silver Coin

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 Posted 03/13/2016  12:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Obsidian to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I bought this coin at a flea market, and someone pointed it out to me that it was fake, but the guy I bought it off said it's authentic. But you may never know.

I couldn't upload the pictures on here cause it's over 200kbs. So I uploaded it on imgbox.


http://i.imgbox.com/Doq5nuQd.jpg
http://i.imgbox.com/VuoKbUR8.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/ztdEJbHa.jpg
http://i.imgbox.com/Ti2PU2Kw.jpg
http://i.imgbox.com/ry0x1cBX.jpg

I'll take way better pictures later.

But I was wondering if there was any way to tell off the bat if it was fake (like simple eye catching ways)

Thanks in advance
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Not my area of knowledge but just the fact it was flea market is a red flag. The color loos off to me as well. Looks way too uniform grey.
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Its beaten to heck and back tbh. I only pays $25 for it. And I have some old coke bottles from same flea market and they are legit. So idk.
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first order of business, does it stick to a magnet?
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Save your image in some sort of photo shop software like Adobe or other functional equal picture manager. Then "save as" jpeg. A dialog box should pop up asking you to set the detail level. At the bottom you will see the file size. Use the one that gives you an end result of less than 200kb. Also use the photo editor to crop out non-coin detail and also re-size the image to fit best. I often reduce my coin images and they are quite small files sizes, but they are good enough to show here.
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I tried the magnet thing right off the bat and it does not stick :D

And I'm almost never on the computer so can't really convert the images right now :(
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I resized the pictures that were in fair or better focus.


1748-Spanish-Silver-Coin

1748-Spanish-Silver-Coin

1748-Spanish-Silver-Coin

1748-Spanish-Silver-Coin

It would be better to have pictures in better focus but I am of the opinion that the coin is a numismatic forgery.

The edge, although out of focus, appears to show a raised center - a seam. The faces show a roughness of the fields and a lack of sharp detail that also indicates forgery.

I would weigh the coin and then determine the density of the metal. Weight divided by volume is density. The best way to calculate the volume of a coin is to determine the weight of water it displaces. So weigh the coin in air and then again in water suspended by a very fine thread. The loss of weight is the displacement.

Divide the weight of the coin by the weight loss in water and you have the density.

The density of a genuine 8R will be 10.31 and the weight should be about 26.9 grams.
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