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 Posted 03/19/2016  8:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please help me identify this coin:
Please-Help---Unknown-Chinese-Coin

If you can give me these details I would greatly appreciate it:

Year or Approx Date of Minting
Face value
KM# if known

I'm sorry if I have not displayed the coin in its' correct orientation, I have no idea which way is up.

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 Posted 03/19/2016  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a "cash coin" from China, from the era of "Kang-hsi" in the years 1661-1722.
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03/20/2016 02:21 am
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 Posted 03/19/2016  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Minted for Emporer Sheng Zu in 1667-75. Obv. characters are Kang Xi tong bao. Mint was Linqing garrison and attribution is Hartill #22.124. Orientation is correct in your photos.
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 Posted 03/19/2016  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!! Thanks!! You folks are pretty quick.

I now have a heap of info about it and I notice that it's Numista Rarity index: 86, so I guess there's not many of them around.

Features
Country China - Empire
Years 1667-1675
Value 1 Cash (0.001)
Metal Cast Brass
Diameter 27 mm
Shape Round with a square hole
Orientation Medal alignment #8593;#8593;
Demonetized yes
References FD# 2264

Chinese ideograms
- Top to bottom:
#24247;#29081; = Kangxi, 4th emperor of the Qing dynasty (Manchu) 1661-1722.
- Right to left:
#36890;#23542; = Tong bao, means currency
Reverse
In Manchu and Chinese prints, the mint name: Lin-lin (Linqing, Shandong province)

Wish I could remember where I got it from.

I just had a dose of reality, being that it's Chinese, is it likely that this might not be a genuine coin?
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03/19/2016 9:40 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2016  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In addition to FD# 2264 it is Schjoth#1425, KM#320, Hartill#22.124, Hartill Qing#20.55.

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Thanks for the extra info. Now I can label it correctly.
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Keep in mind these Chinese emperors had varieties of names and they can be spelled in different ways.
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Quote:
Keep in mind these Chinese emperors had varieties of names and they can be spelled in different ways.


The Qing Dynasty emperors (and most of the Ming as well) had their real name and just one reign title. You see multiple reign titles per emperor during the Song Dynasty. It was tradition to have a lucky or powerful-sounding reign title for an emperor, and this tradition dates back well into the Zhou Dynasty. It just wasn't tradition to put the reign titles on coins until the 500's AD and more so until 960 AD.

The spelling depends on how you transcribe the Chinese characters into English. There is only one set of Characters, but the English transcription can be different to better reflect the pronunciation of the charaters. For example the bottom character can be written as 'Xi' or 'Hsi.' The latter transcription is a better representation of how the character is pronounced.


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I just had a dose of reality, being that it's Chinese, is it likely that this might not be a genuine coin?


This coin is genuine.
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 Posted 03/21/2016  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much. This is the first time I've need help to identify a coin and you have been extremely helpful.
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