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An 1800 Bust Dollar For Your Grading Opinions.

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This coin will a study in how grading opinions have changed over the last 40 years. Actually you could compress that to the last 20 years.

This coin has some fame connected with it, if you collect or have an interest in early silver dollar die varieties. It's still ranked as the finest known or at least tied for the finest known for the variety. Dave Bowers noted it in his latest book on early dollars. What would you grade it?

BTW the obverse and reverse photos were taken at different times. The obverse was from when it was a raw coin. Some how I lost its reverse counterpart, and so a slab photo is shown for the reverse. The obverse is the more important. side.

An-1800-Bust-Dollar-For-Your-Grading-Opinions. An-1800-Bust-Dollar-For-Your-Grading-Opinions.
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AU55?
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AU58
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AU-58
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Zowie. I'm at 58 as well, but just an educated guess - not much experience at this grade level.
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Wow! What a great eye opener. Not a good grader but an MS-62 IMH guess.
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Details are AU-58, the luster is AU-53/55, so I would say AU-58.
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Probablly a SLIDER,58/MS but it's just great to get to see it! Thanks
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AU55 was my initial impression.
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AU55
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AU53

I tried the Early Dollar Die Attribution Wizard, I am about 95% sure it's BB-185, B-20 however I am a newbie so I might be wrong.

Adding link to the wizard if anyone else wants to try attributing it http://www.earlydollars.org/wizardhome.htm

-MV
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NICE looking coin!

AU-58 for me
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Holy cow billjones ... this is a monster coin indeed.

You have not been with us for long ... but have certainly been willing to share some amazing examples of USA coinage ... for which I am personally thankful.

I have no experience with early USA dollars ... therefore my comments below are simply from an informed collector.

I see (by photo) luster all over the coin ... and the 13 obverse stars appear to be well struck up ... causing me to wonder what is going on with the weakness seen in Ms. Liberty hair adjacent to her neck line?

The reverse shows some kind of die marker above (left) the letter "S" in STATES ...

This is absolutely one of the most outstanding USA early dollar coins I have ever had the pleasure of viewing ... truly Thank You for sharing it.

My guess on grade is simply that ... an uninformed guess.

MS63 if recently re-graded by today's standards.

David
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AU53 modern grade.

Once upon a time, Extremely Fine was almost a top end coin, and About Uncirculated coins were what TPGs now call MS60-MS62...





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AU50 one side Au58 other, I will go with Au53, but I know nothing :)
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AU-53+
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