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 Posted 03/29/2016  07:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Angielczyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can somebody please let me know what is a fair US$ price to pay for a Zimbabwe 100 trillion banknote from 2008 in uncirculated condition. I have been offered one but the seller does not know how much to ask for it

Thanks for your help
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 Posted 03/29/2016  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check ebay and see what they are selling for there. I seem to remember checking about three years ago and they were selling for about $8 to $10 each. All of these notes will be uncirculated because the Zimbabwe economy collapsed before the government had a chance to release them. Read the story of what happened, it is one of the most tragic tales of failed economic policy that you will ever come across.
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 Posted 03/29/2016  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember that kind of price too. However, recently I happened to noticed them being offered - and sold - locally for prices up to $35. So I did a quick search.

There are two listings at 22 euros each at Delcampe at the moment. That's the cheapest BIN price I found.

Many ebay items are already bid up to a higher price or almost that with some time left. A search of completed listings at ebay reveals many prices in the $28-33 range, sometimes higher than that (BIN almost always higher).
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 Posted 03/30/2016  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty sure I got mine for less than $10 about 3 years ago, but nowadays, as DL20K says, they're going for much more. I just looked at ebay and saw a BIN for $42. Yikes.
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 Posted 03/30/2016  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Angielczyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your help.

Truly an inflation note
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 Posted 03/30/2016  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should the Zimbabwean Dollar ever reach parity with ours, you will look back and laugh at the very idea of questioning a fair price for one of these.

Seriously, about $25 is fair, ebay BIN is puffed up. Go to the auctions, watch a few of them, and snipe them for what you want to pay as a maximum bid. You'll get one eventually, as long as you aren't absurdly lowballing your bid.
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 Posted 03/30/2016  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Seriously, about $25 is fair, ebay BIN is puffed up. Go to the auctions, watch a few of them, and snipe them for what you want to pay as a maximum bid. You'll get one eventually, as long as you aren't absurdly lowballing your bid.

Good advice.
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 Posted 05/21/2016  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got mine like 3-4 years ago. I'm not sure exactly how much I paid, but since I was pretty new in the banknote world I never paid more than 5 USD for a note. Now I'm regretting I didn't buy like 100 pieces of them
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 Posted 05/21/2016  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same here, I recall these for $7 each as singles and bundles for $400. Alas, too soon old, too late smart, or something like that.

When I began collecting stamps in 1960 I would get flyers from the approval dealers, offering the new currencies of the world at current prices, and obsolete notes. I well recall being offered India KGVI 5 Rupee notes for $0.75, UNC in a specially printed window envelope. The QE portrait notes of 1963 were being flogged around for $5 and up, and the obsolete notes of the newly independent African colonies were coming into the market, as well as the first notes of the new nations, all at perhaps double face value. I bought a few of them because they were pretty, but hindsight says I should have sold my little sister into white slavery and bought all I could. Would have probably made enough profit to make it up to her, later.

I did find a box of such notes at an estate sale a few years back and snapped it up, all it Littleton Coin Company window envelopes, but it was mainly cheap packet material back then and in the main still inexpensive stuff, but the India KGVI notes were quite a good find, and a Dutch Indies note, and the little Hong Kong One Cent notes.
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A shop in my region had them for $5 each as recently as a year ago. My feeling is that there's a bit of a bubble with regard to them at the moment (albeit nothing like the Zimbabwe currency inflation bubble of 2008). Ultimately I'd expect their price and desirability to come into line with that of the high denomination German notes produced toward the end of 1923. These are curiosities to be sure, but will never be rare.

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In another thread someone with first- (or possibly second-) hand experience mentioned that because the rate of inflation was so great, many notes were never spent because they simply were worthless days or hours after printing. Which is why there are so many of them to be found in UNC condition, and with a few exceptions, will never be scarce (as Lucky Cuss mentioned).
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 Posted 06/15/2016  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ShareBear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the guys at my work bought a 1000 bundle of these notes back in 2012 and sold them individually. He said he doubled his money. I am sure he wishes that he had kept them until now.

BTW I still have the 3 that he sold me :)
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paxbrit: Their Central Bank will simply demonetize the old bills and force citizens to trade them in for their new currency. Once you hyperinflate it's very hard to control that damage. For example, in 1992 Mexico introduced a new currency, the Nuevo Peso, which was equal to 1000 "old" pesos. For a country that thrived on silver coinage for centuries it's very sad to see the route it went because realistically it's the same currency just with invisible zeroes on it. The only thing that gave it some confidence was the sterling silver core in the 10 and 20 peso coins, which disappeared after 1995. It's an illusion.
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Yes, it's the old shell game with the currency. Hungary had the Pengo, then the B-Pengo. Adopengo, etc., Mexico the Neuvo Peso, Argentina has had about 4 different currencies in 40 years.

Wait until the redesigned US bills come out in a year or two, confidence in the currency is going to drop.
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