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meltodd2012 New Member Canada 49 Posts	Posted 04/03/2016 8:06 pm HI everyone. I am starting a collection for my son. Pre confederation / colonial canada tokens. Does anyone out there know of a book that has mintages of each of these tokens? Also on how to grade them? I've searched online and can not find mintage on most of them and grading is so much more different then typical canadian coins it seems. Anyone help... Report this Post to the Staff

DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9862 Posts	Posted 04/03/2016 8:46 pm You need "The Charlton Standard Catalogue of Canadian Colonial Tokens" Mintages for most are unknown. There is no grading guide for Colonial Tokens. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
billfrak Valued Member Canada 496 Posts	Posted 04/03/2016 8:50 pm Grading is usually hands on . Charlton did make a workbook to help on some. Report this Post to the Staff
Wade Pillar of the Community Canada 2781 Posts	Posted 04/03/2016 11:03 pm Charton's guide is good, as is the "guide to Canadian coins and tokens" by Haxby. Each token series has it's own characteristics for grading. an 1820 bust and harp might look like it's VF20 (compared to a modern coin) when in fact it is mint state - as it was a very crudely made token to begin with. It's a real challenge to learn each one. If I can offer any advice at all, search out the highest grade possible. A small collection of MS coins will hold it's value many times over a large collection of mid grades, especially with the common issues such as 1837, 42,44,52,56 bank tokens, and the dragon slayer series. I would look for more harder to find (in high grades) issues, such as Magdalen Island, Rutherford, & Victoria Nobis etc. Good luck, have fun, and PS: pay attention to Doug aka colonialtokens posts, he's a walking encyclopedia for this era Edited by Wade 04/03/2016 11:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
colonialtokens Pillar of the Community United States 840 Posts	Posted 04/03/2016 11:55 pm As Wade says, Charlton's and Haxby's books on tokens are a must read. Other specialty books are also available, and from what I understand,some others are currently pending. As for mintages, many records of this era have not survived the sands of time and records of others were never maintained. Due to the shortage of hard cash, contempory counterfeits (of unknown mintages) abounded and many of these were readily accepted in trade and commerce. Some tokens were expertly designed and produced while others were deliberately poorly executed. Many of the poorly executed tokens were intended to mimic older worn tokens and to circumvent the law. The Tiffin half pennies are a prime ensample. Check the grass blades. What often appears to be a worn very fine token is often a MS state. Be forewarned. Tokens are highly addictive and hazardous to your wallet. Welcome to the enthralling world of Canadian Colonial Tokens. doug ps. Current books are the best, but recent used Charlton's contain most of the same generic information. Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 04/04/2016 12:41 pm Later this year (~ November 2016) I will have a book that will do a more in depth look at the Blacksmith Tokens (Chapter 1). I do supply some Rarity populations on some of the more rare issues ... this book may be too advanced for you (as a beginner) but others may find it entertaining ... As someone else indicated with any Colonial issue its mostly hands-on or simply buying it slabbed (certified) if you are wary on dropping some serious money in the field. John Lorenzo Numismatist United States Edited by colonialjohn 04/04/2016 12:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff
colonialtokens Pillar of the Community United States 840 Posts	Posted 04/04/2016 9:38 pm Looking forward to your tome. doug Report this Post to the Staff
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