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The Gold Dollar In Everyday Use--So Tiny!

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I'm wondering how citizens actually used the gold dollar coins in everyday use?

It's so tiny, it seems to me that it could easily get lost between the sofa cushions if you weren't careful. Or fall through a hole in your pocket.

Seriously, though, how practical was such a tiny coin for carrying around and spending?
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I don't think it saw much use, and for precisely that very reason.
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If you think gold dollars are small, imagine using the California fractional gold coins. They were actually used in California quite extensively, due to a shortage of silver coin.
Gold and silver coin was the preferred method of payment in CA right up until WW1.
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Considering there was a change in diameter between the three non-commemoratie types, which one was the most common/popular overall? (combined mintage, contemporary circulation early/at the end of gold circulation). 13mm is too small for a coin for practical reasons (easy to lose), but the 15mm piece was the approx. size of a Half Dime, and considering we had 15mm coins in circulation is Sweden up until 1990, I can imagine them being large enough for practical use.

[Modern issue] How widespread was the usage of the dollar note and coin? Was the dollar coin common among the "less fortunate" (i.e. poor people, working class)?

Many interesting thoughts that came to mind here.
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Given how valuable a dollar was back then, people probably were a lot more careful with their money. They probably had everything in a small bag they guarded very carefully.

That being said, small coins still were easier to lose. That's why countries gradually got rid of the smaller coins. Still, tradition dies hard, and places like Australia kept the tiny 3 pence silver to 1964.
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considering we had 15mm coins in circulation is Sweden up until 1990

Here in Russia, we had 15mm coins in circulation up until 1991 (Soviet 1 kopek), and then 15.5mm coins (also 1 kopek) from 1997 to 2009* (these are technically still circulating, having never been demonetized - I actually got some in change last year - but the .015 US cent face value makes them pretty much useless for actual purchases).

I think the world's smallest circulating coin from the last 30 or so years by straight diameter is the Spanish 1 peseta (1989-2001), at 14 mm. But it is a lot thicker than most tiny coins (not sure if that made it easier to lose or harder).



*) some were also issued in 2014, apparently for recently occupied Crimea
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People were much smaller then.
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They were't normally carried in pockets either but in coin pouches.
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I've seen historical references to carrying Three Cent Silver under the tongue for transport. Maybe the gold dollar also got a tongue pouch treatment.
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I know of a couple of sites where gold dollars were found in quantity and they both were Civil War Union camps where payroll was distributed. Imagine soldiers lined up at a folding table in a quartermaster's tent taking a small group of gold dollars in their handkerchiefs and how easy to drop a few when pulling it out next time to pay for smokes at the Sutler's wagon. Yet gold dollars sure beat out pinches of gold dust, an even more unsuitable exchange medium.
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Type 1 gold dollars were criticized for their extremely small size, and they were often confused with the small silver coins in circulation at the time.


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under the tongue for transport

One form of theft in Casinos was table games dealers putting high denominations chip in their mouth(pretending to cough) just before break time.
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I thought the soldiers were usually paid in paper.
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if it's small enough you can barely tell it's a fake!

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With our currency as debased as it is I wonder where it will all end? Given that our entire economy is floating on close to zero interest rates how does that affect the price of gold and silver and silver and gold coins. There is tremendous pressure to borrow and speculate and negative incentive to save. Where and how does this end? A 30 year treasury note only returns 2.6% on your money each year. If you had a million dollars in such bonds that would mean gross income of just $26,000 a year before tax. I am pretty sure a million dollars today will only be worth about 40 percent of that in 30 years if we are lucky. The house next door on a city lot is selling for almost a million dollars.
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People were much smaller then.


This made me chuckle

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