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Wheat Penny Different Size Than Memorial

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According to Wikipedia (I know, not authoritative...) the Lincoln Wheat penny was 19.00 mm in diameter while the Memorial was 19.05 mm. The thickness and weight was not changed until the Zinc pennies were introduced in 1982.

The questions include: Is this accurate? I can't tell any difference visually.

If accurate, why such a tiny change? Since it seems to correspond with the change to the Memorial back was it due to the design change?
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I never knew this! I didn't notice the difference. News to me but yeah I'm not sure.
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I don't believe that's correct. All Lincoln cents, both wheats and memorials, have measured 19.05 mm in diameter, which is exactly 3/4 of an inch. I think Indian Head cents are also the same.
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All small cents are 19 mm, according to the Red Book. The Coin Facts pages say the same.

Unless that value is rounded, this would make Wikipedia incorrect. Someone needs to fix it.
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I can't tell any difference visually.

If your naked eye can detect differences a little as 5 hundredths of a millimeter (about the width of a human hair), you are likely the Bionic Man. And, you'd make one heck of a coin grader.

A delta as small as that could be caused by any number of steps in the manufacturing process and is probably negligible (0.26% difference) or at least within tolerances.
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My references show all the small cents back the 1857 to be 19.05 mm
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I'm willing to bet it is just a rounding error. I'm sure when the small cent was first specced by the mint it was done as 3/4", the U.S. not being metrically inclined in those days. When various authorities / authors / reference sources converted to metric the overly picky or unthinking ones converted as 19.05 mm, where as those with a better understanding of the relevance of significant digits just converted it as 19 mm.
This same thing bugs me when I see instructions on doing something that will say "cut a piece about 6 inches long (152.4 mm). If they are telling you to estimate about 6 inches and then cut, why the h would you say OR 152.4 mm? Lets just call it 150 mm to stay with the spirit of the thing.
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They are both 19.05mm.
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Agree the 19 mm figure was an "error"; perhaps it was a matter of convenience for the writer to round down.
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I am inclined to believe that BadThad and Conder are correct; the publications I have listed use rounded values.
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I edited the Wiki article but haven't found decent online sources to reference.

Thanks All!
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