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Chinese Coins. Fake Or Real?

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 Posted 04/12/2016  8:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Stonecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Folks,

I need assistance identifying the authenticity of the following Chinese coins. All have passed a magnetic test.

Thanks,

Stone

C1

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C3

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C4

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C5

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C6

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C7

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C8

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C9

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C10

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 Posted 04/12/2016  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% fake. Ask for your money back as you do not know what kind of metal is in them. Could be loaded with bonus lead.
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Hi GX,

Thank you for the quick reply. I read some of your previous posts regarding counterfeits and was glad to see your response. The good news is these were obtained for free. The better news is that if they are worth nothing, then I am out nothing.

Thanks again,

Stone
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Very common fakes. Glad you didn't get burned.
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C9 is interesting. Is that copying a real coin, or just a straight up fantasy?
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Is there anyone that knows alot about old Chinese coins like reall old"circa" coins? I have one and I know nothing about it. If anyone knows, please let me know and I will post pictures. I know it is supposedly from somewhere between 1644-1800, not sure what dynasty that was. I wuld like to know the coins denomination or really just anything. Thanks
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@jellybeancs, best idea is to start your own thread and post the pics. You should find several folks on CCF who can offer their expertise.
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Please feel free to post photos in a new thread jellybeancs. There are a lot of Chinese counterfeits but from time to time I do see genuine examples.
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I thought C9 was interesting as well. The 999 designation with the implication of silver content, for those of us that do not read Hanzi, and the design were both intriguing.

I found catalog images of most of the coins for comparison. The C3 coin, "fat man," is a good example. Unlike some of the other coins, like C1 with obvious errors in the replication, C3 appeared image correct. However, there were no images of C9 for comparison.

Given my lack of ability to understand logograms and my propensity for U.S. coinage, I knew I could find help here.
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It is the "usual" mix of coin types you get from the Chinese bulk coin counterfeiters: "common" types (eg. C3), rare patterns (eg. C1, C8) and outright fantasies (eg. C5, C6). All of them are "supposed to be " silver, none of them actually will contain any silver. You can still see the brush-strokes on some coins (eg. C2, C5, C6) where they painted on the fake tarnish.

C9 is, I suspect, based on a privately-made bullion round. It seems to be a copy of a copy of a copy and has lost considerable details during the copying process which has had to be re-engraved; the face on the central goat is particularly cartoonish when compared to the other two goats.

And just to point out, you've accidentally posted the same reverse picture twice: C4 and C11 are exactly the same pictures, with the spray-painted "tarnish" patterns exactly the same on both. I assume C4 is actually correct and C11 has the wrong picture, since it reads "7 mace 2 candareens" in Chinese, rather than "1 tael", though the Chinese fakemakers do sometimes get their obverse and reverse dies mixed up to create impossible "mules".
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all fake, you get these nowadays with a free PVC album for about $20 for 20 pieces on the flea market.
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