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Took A Dive Into Medieval Coins

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Back to my lot antics:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/beautiful-m...8811?txnId=0

http://www.ebay.com/itm/beautiful-m...5705?txnId=0

AD 500-1500 is a huge void in my collection, save for a few hideous Byzantine bronzes and some islamic fals. Seemed like there was some good variety in those lots, so I went for it.

Now starts the long wait for the coins to ship from Serbia.

In the meantime, how did I do with these two lots?
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 Posted 04/17/2016  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Finn235, I think that "beautiful" is a stretch to describe them, but at 1$ per coin I would have taken the chance. Once you get them, it is going to be some work to identify them and what comes out of that labour will determine if it is a fabulous lot or simply a good one.

It is nice to know that there are still some reasonable buys on ebay.
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Looks like some interesting coins, I see some from Hungary and some that look Islamic. I haven't bought any coins from that part of the world I've always been a little weary if they would show up or not.
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European medieval coinage has always been a difficult area of numismatics for me. That has not stopped me from collecting in this area.
Most of the scholarly references are difficult and expensive to obtain.
I do have a copy of the
Coins of Medieval Europe, by Grierson, and this remains by far the best referece that I have. The bibliograpy at the back of this book is huge. Grierson has completed a monumental work of the labour of love for numismatics.
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some work to identify them


And we are here to help!


Not a bad couple of starter sets. The shiny Hungarian denars (assuming real) could make back your buying price.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Believe it or not, I have usually experienced the fastest ship times and fewest problems from eastern European sellers. Thanks for the tip for looking at Hungary--looks like a lot of my coins might be from there, ca. 1000-1200. We will see when the arrive.

Medieval coins have always been hard for me to get into, mainly because of really difficult to read lettering, and either a complete lack of a portrait, or one so poorly executed it cannot be used alone to ID a coin. Plus, lots tend to go for $3-5 per coin, versus $0.75-2.50 each for Romans in a lot.

Oh, also this shipped free with the lot, as icing on the cake:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FANTASTICTr...3255?txnId=0
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The most of these coins are from Hungary and Ottoman Empire (Hungary was ruled by the Ottoman Empire from 1541 to 1699). I can help you to identify! ;)

I like that Trajan Decius - Pannonia too!
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Lot 3:
- large copper coin is an Ottoman Empire copper Mangir AH1099/1687 (you can see the numbers!). Two copper mangir = 1 silver akce if I am right.
- first row second from the right is an Ottoman Empire silver Akce.
- others are Hungarians (coppers are contemporary fake coins)
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Lot 2:
- the biggest is Polish
- I can see a few Ottoman Akce
- the others are Hungarians too
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Lot arrived today! It's...

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Huh?

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Because I certainly needed to know that this Serbian seller in on the level and NOT trying to hide things from his customs office.

Anyway, initial attributions seem to be more or less correct. Coins are mostly Hungarian, clustered around 1100-1250, and 1500-1700. There are also some Ottoman coins, and a larger Polish coin. Here is a small sample of some more interesting coins:

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And golly gosh do these things feel fragile! They will probably all have to go in 2x2s just so I don't breathe too hard and snap them!
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What a steal !
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What a hoot! I thought that you must have uploaded the wrong photos when I first saw the CD. Nice packaging for a great group of coins.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I agree ... that looks like a nice group of coins.

And how they were packages .. makes for a good story.
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Very nice group of coins...congrats
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Finally had some time last night to sit down and start the work of identifying the coins. As already stated, almost all of them are Hungarian. Fortunately, Numista has most Hungarian coins going back to about 900.

Charles Robert (Karoly Robert) 1308-1342, parvus (reduced Denar)
Obv: Crowned bust facing, R K in fields
Rev: Eagle

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Ref: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59936.html


Istvan II (Stephen II) 1116-1131, Denar
Obv: Large cross with wedges at arms, pellets at each angle
Rev: Small cross within two circles

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Ref: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33700.html
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So the same seller listed more lots, and I couldn't help myself:

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This time, I got a free CD of "oldies greatest hits" to listen to in my car
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