1942 Overdate Quarter?,,,.... Better Photos.

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gusp Valued Member United States 288 Posts	Posted 02/18/2008 5:20 pm Here is one rare bird. This coin is a 64-5 Gem beauty VVEDS coin. (there is a tick on the cheek). There is a distinct loop within the main 2 in the date. IT IS NOT Machine Doubling! So, don't bother with that. That is ridiculous. The initial underdate lays to the left of the main 2. It had to be from the initial hubbing of the die. There is absolutely no sliding of metal whatsoever around the innermost digit. It is a very flat and well demarcated extra numeral. If ya was tiny enough you could fall off the edge. It is VVEDS. Tight and very smooth planchet around the inner rim area. The doubling to the left of the base of the 2 is picture shadowing. It is not on the coin. The doubling to the right of the top of the 4 is some slight doubling. I cannot make out with certainty any vertical serif indication in the back V area of the backside of the 2. (right side of 2) I have noticed that the circumference of the inner numeral within the loop of the 2 does not seem to match that of the main numeral 2. It may be the upper left curved part of the roman numeral 1. The numeral 1 has a larger circumference than that of the 2 used on this coin. Being that the extra metal was from the initial hubbing imprint in the die, it lays low to the field. I cannot imagine that too many coins were struck before the impression faded into oblivion. Rare coin by virtue of manufacture. So, over-date or double date? The dealers I know usually defer to me on this question. They wonder the same. Maybe time for overlays. Anyone seen another? I have had the coin for a very long time. I cherry picked it. Hope you enjoy the photos. They are the best that I have for now. G... Image: 1942ddate.jpg 18.08 KB Image: 1942ddate2.jpg 42.43 KB Image: 1942ddate3.jpg 19.05 KB Close up of 2 added. Image: 42over1pic2.jpg 12.27 KB Image: 42over1.jpg 24.14 KB Edited by gusp 02/20/2008 1:34 pm Report this Post to the Staff

wrongalot Pillar of the Community United States 608 Posts	Posted 02/18/2008 6:38 pm very cool Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 02/18/2008 10:03 pm Hmm, interesting...am I seeing some kind of doubling on the 9 and 4 as well? Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 02/18/2008 11:06 pm I'd Love to see a more clear picture of the date and then a nice shot of the IN GOD WE TRUST motto. There are some doubled dies on 1942 quarters so a better picture would help. It would be more than an "overdate" as the hubbing would have effected the entire obverse. Maybe some shots of LIBERTY can be shared too. Thanks, Bill Edited by foundinrolls 02/20/2008 3:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 02/19/2008 09:26 am nice coin !! Report this Post to the Staff
gusp Valued Member United States 288 Posts	Posted 02/20/2008 11:44 am There is some doubling on the 9 and the 4. I have not looked a coin in awhile. Seems to me that the rest of the coin appears mostly normal. There is a bit of outlining around the profile. Perhaps others can chime in here, but I believe that the same master die could be used to make different working hubs and that the date on that hub could contain 2-3 numbers, IE...19 or 194, ect. The last number could be added to a given die later. (I am doing this from memory so take with grain of salt). I would assume that this could explain why this coin does not exhibit much doubling all over the OBV. The 1941 and 1942 dies used here were probably made from same parent. What makes this coin suspected to be an overdate is that the possible 1941 underdate was added to die first,(initial imprint), before the next year (1942) hub changeover. That would only make sense. Gusp Image: 1942over1.jpg 59.7 KB Edited by gusp 02/20/2008 11:58 am Report this Post to the Staff
collector001 New Member United States 4 Posts	Posted 02/27/2008 11:43 am Without looking at the coin, it is hard to tell from the photo if the coin is from a doubled die or has Mechanical Doubling. Either way, I only see another 2 over the 2 and not a 1. Send it to CONECA for verification. Report this Post to the Staff
gusp Valued Member United States 288 Posts	Posted 02/27/2008 12:58 pm Collector001...Some Day to Coneca. NOT Machine Doubling! Had coin long time. When I show it to my dealer friends the first thing they wonder is if it is a 2/1 or 2/2. They all think that it may be a 2/1, first impression as the curve of the inner numeral does not in any way match the curve of the 2. Coin is V. V. E. D. S. Close too if not, die mate. Very easy to see numeral. The upper part of the extra numeral has slightly greater depth than it's lower (leg) part. This could have been caused by a numeral 1 punch being held slightly cocked forward. (True Over-date or DDO?) Coin also appears to have some DDO. So?... There are lots of unknown variety coins still out there. Keeps it fun. Happy hunting. Gusp Edited by gusp 02/27/2008 1:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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