1953 S Roosevelt, Possible Double Lip And Bridge Of Nose

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AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 04/30/2016 10:02 pm Just stumbled on this one. There is a second bottom lip and bridge of the nose. Also check the bottom of the earlobe although this appears more like a contact mark. Could it be a double die? Thx! Report this Post to the Staff

AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/01/2016 09:55 am Just found this: http://varietyvista.com/Hot%20Lips%...%20Study.htm No 1952 S listed or mention of area near bridge of nose. I'll keep looking. Report this Post to the Staff
NDCENT Pillar of the Community United States 530 Posts	Posted 05/01/2016 1:15 pm It may not be listed,but I see two sets of lips.I would definitely keep it and possibly send it to James Wiles for an attribute.If not,send it to me.lol Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/01/2016 2:05 pm Will do, thanks NDCent Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/02/2016 6:14 pm Article by Ken Potter: http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...r-discovered Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/03/2016 01:13 am Quite pricey...I assume it's rare on top of the quality of the coin. Mine has the area across the bridge of the nose. This one does not. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-S-MS63...331640996309 Report this Post to the Staff
NDCENT Pillar of the Community United States 530 Posts	Posted 05/03/2016 7:26 pm Great research AMB! Congrats on the fantastic find.Cha-Ching! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/04/2016 12:06 am I'm still not seeing it. Too dark on the lips area. I should look something like this I guess: Edited by coop 05/04/2016 12:08 am Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/04/2016 12:44 am Don't think it's that exact one...it's different. The bridge of the nose does not have the same raised area as mine. Looking at variety vista there seems to be many versions and images...could it be a die clash vs doubling? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/04/2016 12:49 am From what I can see on your images, that it is not a DDO. More of an altered die isolated polishing issue. The devices you see altered doesn't follow what the hub would have created. The direction affected is in the same direction, but on the field and not on the bust as a hub doubled die would show. That is what I'm seeing on your coin. Overlay target areas of clash: Edited by coop 05/04/2016 12:52 am Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/04/2016 12:54 am How about the nose and brow? Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/04/2016 5:54 pm One last image after a "thorn" clean up. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/05/2016 01:28 am That I also feel it is the same over polishing. (saw that before) Thus I included the clash to show what areas might be affected during a clash. Those areas are also target areas. Report this Post to the Staff
AMB Pillar of the Community United States 801 Posts	Posted 05/05/2016 10:24 am John Wiles also shows the clash areas in his examples: http://varietyvista.com/Hot%20Lips%...%20Study.htm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/05/2016 3:05 pm James Wiles images are used in the first three images of an overlay of a normal coin and the overlay to show how much the devices are enlarged. The second pair of overlays are to show the olive branch how it would affect the face during a clash. But the DDO protrudes out further. So he is showing what a normal die clash would look like and a die clash with the DDO. (just figured out the the HL after the dates mean; Hot Lips) Report this Post to the Staff
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