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1899 $2 Mini Porthole Silver Certificate Lyons Roberts

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 Posted 05/08/2016  12:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add georgescoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you think of my 1899 $2 silver certificate? It is the rarer Lyons Roberts signature combo. I am getting it graded and it has a low serial number.

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 Posted 05/08/2016  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collectorking2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh c'mon you know what we think!! It's pretty darn nice! Although the first set of pictures look much better then he second. But cameras will do that sometimes. My camera makes my notes look less appealing then they really are in person. A scanner is definitely the way to go. In the second set I can see the light wallet folds. I'd say it could get maybe an EF Grade possibly Choice VF. It is indeed the Lyons/Roberts sig combo. It is not the rarest combo as they printed 119,408,000 with that sig combo. The rarest by far is the Napier/Thompson combo..

But I'd say it is nicer then mine

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Very nice - keep us up to date!

Almost impossible to grade high-end PM from pics.

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 Posted 05/08/2016  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PS - My general sense is possibly AU-50/53, or a 3-fold EF-45 at worst based on shadow lines.

As to scarcity, this note (as the first issue) is generally among the least expensive in the series grade-for-grade.
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 Posted 05/08/2016  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming it's genuine, it's stunning!

Much nicer than mine as well:

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 Posted 05/08/2016  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lyons/Roberts is actually pretty common. It has what looks like 3 folds which will probably net it an XF40/45. Still a nice note.
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Sharp looking note... Back when our bills were designed with class...
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Sharp looking note... Back when our bills were designed with class...


Nice note @georgescoins, and I do like the front design with George Washington on the front......however, I prefer our current back design on two dollar bills.

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Nice note @georgescoins, and I do like the front design with George Washington on the front......however, I prefer our current back design on two dollar bills.


I do like some of the aspects of today's currency ($2 and $50 bills are really nice bills) but I just think the older bills were designed and look so much better...
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As much as I love the older notes, I would agree with Steve that the reverse of the modern $2 deserves virtually permanent representation on our currency. This is among the most famous of American historical paintings ("The Declaration of Independence"}, done by John Trumbull around 1817. as you may know. If you have had the wonderful experience of seeing it, you can also appreciate its massive size, some 18 feet wide by 12 feet high.
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PS - It was in fact used on an early large-size note, the First Charter NBN $100 issue.
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An 'edited' version appears on this Maine banknote:
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P.S. The note is not mine, found the picture "somewhere" but cannot remember where.
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 Posted 05/31/2016  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottlocklear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone please tell me what this is
Its blank on the back side.
But it is printed on money paper.

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Looks like a replica to me since there is no serial numbers attached to it...
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Scottlocklear

What you have isn't a replica rather it is a cut down BEP Souvenir card for the 2002 ANA http://www.kenbarr.com/BEP/b261.jpg


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Congrats georgescoins
Your bill looks awesome.
Here are my examples.


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