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1879 Four Dollar Stella Flowing Hair PF67 Should I Bid?

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Seller abro9955 291759950473 Listed as coil hair.

ebay bid at $22,000 with 6 hrs. to go.

Sold for $402,000 10 years ago at Heritage Auctions.

Hate to let you people know. Will I win?


1879-Four-Dollar-Stella-Flowing-Hair-PF67--Should-I-Bid?

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 Posted 05/16/2016  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
too spendy for me--you are out of my league!!
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 Posted 05/16/2016  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm suspicious of this coin and seller, Goldflake.

For one, the images were lifted straight off of HA.com.

There's no in-hand images showing the full slab on a ultra-high value item. Or even mention that's certified at all.

Add a seller with just 8 feedback and I'm thinking this is scam listing.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Further more, it's listed in the "Fantasy Issue Coins" section.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes it's good to look a gift horse in the mounth, especially when cost many thousands of dollar.

Stolen photo = no bid so far as I'm concerned.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This auction stinks as a scam. Seller with 8 feedback, listed in the fantasy coin section, and no refunds.
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 Posted 05/16/2016  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reply from seller minutes ago-

"PCGS MS-63"

"Yes I know that's why it's on the auction side I only could list a certain amout on ebay but the auction can go as high as it goes if it doesn't get the bids I won't sell it"

It will never sell.
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Since it is on ebay, and considering the fame of this coin,
it becomes
absoultely essential that the integrity of the seller, and that of the coin itself, has to be proved to beyond any doubt whatsover.

I would have preferred to find this sort of coin up for public auction at Heritage; they have the expertise, they have the reputation.
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PCGS MS-63 on a supposed "proof" coin?

Ridiculous attempt at scamming. I've reported it.
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This is your classic ebay scam. Stay FAR away!
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A Stella PR63 has a value of 100K +. Why is there no photos with PCGS cert number? I Guess the seller does not have a cell phone or camera. If this auction was legit, the starting price would be close to 100K. I would have a strong concern that the coin was counterfeit or stolen.
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I am agreement with the others. I would never buy anything this costly (even if I could) from ebay, or for that matter, probably anywhere, without some sort of assurance of its authenticity, provenance, and confidence in the seller with appropriate guarantees including returns. Would you buy a $20,000 car from someone unknown, based only on a picture?
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I've reported it... Obviously a scam!
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I own a Stella, no such a thing as MS they are all considered PF. The only thing real about this situation is the cash that may be paid to the ebay member. As Jenny said, "run Forest, run."

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Gold flake,

Was that your bid at 22K?
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This is a really, really pathetic scam.
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