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 to CCF. Looks like a stain. Is it raised or incuse? |
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Thanks Dustin! It is incused about 70% around the rim. The devices are not effected. I am not sure if it is a planchet error or a strike error. Take a good look at the second pic. It is really strange. I understand why you would think a stain, as I am still working on my pic quality. Thanks for the help!
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Looks like some sort of die damage. John1  |
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John, thanks for the great observation. It makes sense that it would be an issue with the die. Maybe the die started to fail around the edge, and chipped away? This forum is awesome btw, everyone is so helpful.
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It don't think it would be die damage because that would be raised. I think it is a struck through error. I'd like to see coop's opinion before we make a conclusion though.
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If the die had chipped away, it would show as raised on the coin.
Pics are playing with my eyes again. A couple do make it look incused, but rest make it look like a stain or foreign substance around the rim.
Acetone may clean up. Thanks, Doug.
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 acetone should be able to do the trick and help us see, stain or error? |
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Sorry for the poor pics, I promise I am working on the quality. I will pick up some accetone after work. I can ensure you all its not a stain, it is incused and basically a rugged vally running around the inside rim of the obverse. Doug &Dustin, Yeah that does make sense, if it was die damage it would be raised. The lettering on the coin appears to be level and the incused area dropps off around the top of the lettering and extends to the rim. I will work on getting better pics after work today, as well as give the coin an accetone dip. Thanks again for all the help  Edited by hoppyg
06/29/2016 10:18 am
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I looked through my phone and I do have a few more pics that may help you all understand what I am seeing. The coin is at home, so this is the best I can do for now. I hope this helps :)   |
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It appears to be staining on the coin. (that will leave that area flat)
If it is incuse, it would be a coin that is damaged.
If it is raised, it might be grease on that area. (try a tooth pick to see if it moves when the area is touched)
The logic about the die being damaged, as mentioned it would leave a raised area on the die. (incuse on die leave a raised area on a coin)
Sometimes liquids get on a coin and when they evaporate, they leave a residue on the coin or an area etched if the liquid is acidic.
I can't think of anything that would make that area on the coin raised in the minting process. If the liquid dried it could leave that area raised.
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06/29/2016 1:00 pm
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Thanks for the input coop. I am guessing it must be damage. Not sure how it happened. This is not a stain, it is incused and if it was PMD I have no idea how something like that would happen without it effecting the devices. I appreciate all the help. I guess I will work on my photo taking skills before I post again. |
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Have you tried to wash it off with water? If it is a residue, it might wash off. If it is a stain, it won't.
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06/29/2016 1:17 pm
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At first, I thought it was a stain or residue as well. I washed it off with water, then examined it with a 16x loop. I then realised that it was not anything on the coin, but the coin itself. The incuse is fairly deep, I am guess 1/2 mm deep at the deepest point. The area around the letters slopes down toward the rim. I am currently at work, but should be home in a few hours. I will do my best to illustrate what I am seeing. I have a few ideas how to get better photos.
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I just PMed Mike. John1 |
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As others have noted, some photos seem to show a gutter and others seem to show a stain or residue. Since it makes no sense for the letter tips to be unaffected where they cross the imperfection, I lean toward the latter interpretation. Another possibility is post-strike damage. Ultimately, I would need to examine the coin myself under a microscope to render a credible opinion.
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Posted 06/28/2016 9:59 pm
Please let me know what you all think. Thanks for all the help!
