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1853 Seated Half Dollar

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I am considering buying this coin. Please give me your opinion on the grade and toning.

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AU+ sharpness..i won't comment on surface originality or colour but I am very skeptical of this coin's originality and I think it is likely cleaned and retoning.
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Agree retoned after an old cleaning
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Surfaces appear "dead", with no luster. I agree this AU+ piece was thoroughly dipped at some point and has since re-toned. It should be valued much lower than an original coin but might still appeal at the right price.
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XF 45 with some major distractions. I would go for an example with luster, or less distractions.
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I do not know if the sufaces are original, but it looks AU-53 to me.
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I'd say AU-50 or EF-45 depending upon the luster.

I'd say that it has been dipped and the toning you see is from re-toning.
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Thanks for the comments. The coin is currently in a AU 50 ANACS holder. The coin is priced at $499 on ebay. If I did buy the coin, I would need it to cross to PCGS for my registry set.

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I'd hold out for another example. Your money your choice.
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Tough call. But I think the sharpness and detail is at least AU-50.
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I'd pass at that price. ANACS, especially in the later years slabbed many cleaned/problem coins that PCGS or NGC wouldn't.

Definitely has AU detail but like the others I think this coin has been retoned.
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PCGS price guide shows $625 for this coin assuming it was in a no-problem PCGS slab at AU-50. The price guide usually gives full retail pricing for PCGS coins. I'd venture to guess you could find an example already in a PCGS holder for not much more than this ANACS piece. That would be a better plan IMO since there is no guarantee that PCGS would cross the ANACS coin at the same grade. They also might flag it as cleaned or Artificially Toned.
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Well said.
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Might be the pics, but the luster doesn't look right
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Look in the obverse fields. I see tons of hairlines. I do not think the color looks natural, and has the texture of a previously-cleaned coin.
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